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Old 10-01-2022, 12:04 PM   #8161
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That blog is a brutal read.
The soldier from his quotes is pretty clearly from the southern US. Either Georgia or Alabama or such. He’s also quite old at mid 70s which is pretty insane for someone taking part in the attack on Lyman.
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Old 10-01-2022, 12:40 PM   #8162
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You quite often don't want to force the enemy to make a last stand, it's costly. Pretty sure there's likely Sun Tzu -quote for this, but I'm too lazy to dig it up

Additionally, Russia isn't short on men, they're short on equipment and logistics. Those men are just a drain on logistics, so it's better the Russians are feeding them than the Ukrainians.
That makes sense in a way given that the logistics and equipment are the bigger Russian issue. It just seems odd to let 5000 men go away when they are going to return to battle but also a huge issue if Ukraine were to take them as pows. This apparent slaughter may take care of the problems altogether. What a disgusting mess Putin has created.
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Old 10-01-2022, 01:29 PM   #8163
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Rumors on telegram and twitter of a renewed offensive in Kherson.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1576288994416992256
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The pictures and videos of the road they withdrew on is NSFW. If you're wondering why Ukraine let them leave, you'll see. Instead of cutting off the road they just hammered the road with artillery and small arms fire and let the few who could survive through. They ain't going back into duty want time soon and it cost the Ukrainians zero food or men. At least a thousand dead or injured by some estimates and tons of destroyed equipment
I wonder if these are the videos I saw last night that a Russian soldier took with his phone. I was going to post them, but decided against it because they are kind of disturbing.

The first one shows a group of about 10 Russian soldiers standing in a tree lot with absolutely no cover. Some of them don't even have boots but are wearing sneakers. I don't speak Russian and there were no sub-titles, but from what I read, the soldier knew they were all about to die but wanted video evidence to show that their commander just abandoned them there to fight to the death.

The next video shows all of them dead except for two. You can hear the gun fire is really close, then one of the soldiers gets shot and you can hear him moaning on the ground. It sounded exactly like what you would think someone dying would sound like. The soldier taking the video seems to be wounded as well and is trying to hold himself up against a tree, then the video ends.

I've seen worse as far as gore goes, but these ones were pretty intense.
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You quite often don't want to force the enemy to make a last stand, it's costly. Pretty sure there's likely Sun Tzu -quote for this, but I'm too lazy to dig it up

Additionally, Russia isn't short on men, they're short on equipment and logistics. Those men are just a drain on logistics, so it's better the Russians are feeding them than the Ukrainians.
Didn't they make it a crime to retreat? If these guys walk out of there, they are probably screwed anyway.

As you said, the Russians aren't short on men. Their commanders would prefer they die there so they don't have to deal with the expense themselves. They don't care about their own people the way other countries do.
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Old 10-01-2022, 03:03 PM   #8166
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Loss of Lyman causing Ru Z telegram to meltdown. Only person seemingly left out of the blame is Putin. Good Tsar bad courtiers and middlemen, never mind they’re all his pals.

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Kherson is shaping up to be a repeat, but at 10 times the scale.

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I don't know what to say about these videos. A few of the people give me hope, but most of them don't.



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I just read the most convincing argument on why it was Russia that blew up those pipes, and I'll share it. It's simple, but convincing.

If it was NOT Russia that had blew up those pipes, they'd be foaming at the mouth and threatening with retaliation, or had retaliated already.
Part of me wants to believe that Poland did it. The Nord Stream lines clearly goes against their national interests and that of NATO as a whole. The Germans have a history of ####ing Poland and even collaborated with the Russians in the past to pig roast them. I would love it if Poland decided to slap Germany back and force them into going all in against Russia this time. No Nord Stream option to back door the alliance.
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Poland risks it's credibility to damage a pipeline that's not being used and could be fixed? Temporarily disrupting a halted pipeline and risking damaging it's alliances with NATO that it increasingly needs right now? I don't buy it
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It was Russia. Anyone thinking otherwise is really deluding themselves. The plain point of it is only Russia is unreliable/risky enough to try something this dumb. Other counties might see value to it and wouldn’t mind it happening but wouldn’t do anything because of risk to NATO.
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It's crazy how quickly the Ukrainian Armed Forces are taking territory back today. Absolutely nuts. Could have a northern and western flank on Kherson within days


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Old 10-02-2022, 12:33 PM   #8175
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Russia and Putins stupid hold the line at all costs in Lyman is likely going to cost them Svatove and Kreminna.
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Sounds like movement in the north today too

https://twitter.com/user/status/1576648286756216839

https://twitter.com/user/status/1576658637329612801

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I suppose I'm spamming this thread now, but the advancements are coming in very fast and furiously as the Russian front in Kherson is dissolving:

https://twitter.com/user/status/1576643785609531393

https://twitter.com/user/status/1576668338763489280

https://twitter.com/user/status/1576662243953217536


There's potentially 25,000 troops that could be encircled soon (though I can't see that coming to fruition as there's too many other forces around)
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Inject that sweet Russian failure into my veins.
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