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Old 12-17-2023, 09:12 AM   #781
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Some might say “he means defensive plays too”. But really good defencemen often don’t look like they’re making plays - they are just in great position.
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Old 12-17-2023, 09:28 AM   #782
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Yeah and the last place a young player could ever thrive.

A quote like that literally takes away all the space a player needs to gain confidence and learn on the job.

Think I saw a Staples quote lauding it as excellent coaching, but it's literally an old school, unsafe work environment.
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Old 12-17-2023, 09:47 AM   #783
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That quote also says (implies): "You guys aren't doing what I am telling you to do. The problem isn't me, it's you"

Just the WORST kind of coaching. A good coach deflects pressure away from the players (when speaking publicly)
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That quote also says (implies): "You guys aren't doing what I am telling you to do. The problem isn't me, it's you"

Just the WORST kind of coaching. A good coach deflects pressure away from the players (when speaking publicly)
Because its not 'Coaching.'

Coaching implies making your players better, just threatening to replace them (which they cant) isnt coaching, its BS.
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After going 8-2 in their last ten games, the Oilers are languising in 13th place, and 6-points out of the second wildcard.

Edmonton is no good.

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Old 12-17-2023, 10:17 AM   #786
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Because its not 'Coaching.'

Coaching implies making your players better, just threatening to replace them (which they cant) isnt coaching, its BS.
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I think that this little gem that Gaskal found and put into last night's ATL belongs here, too.

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Oilers 1-11-1 when scoring 3 goals or fewer. Need to outscore the goaltending and defense every night. Not good.
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Edmonton is No Good XII: Not making plays; not finding anyone else
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Old 12-17-2023, 11:12 AM   #789
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Points all still remain on the tone deafness as mentioned above (and as per below, there's a reason he hasn't been a coach above midget level prior), but it looks like the original question posed was "Are you too nice of a guy to be a coach?" or something along those lines...to which Coffey got his back up on, clearly..

And he's also taking issue with the underlying subtext of that question, that becuase he hasn't been a high level coach anywhere, that he shouldn't be in the role.
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Old 12-17-2023, 11:38 AM   #790
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I just want to thank Sportsnet for last night. Not only did they show us the Flames win, they were nice enough to switch over when our game was over so we could watch the Oilers lose to Matthew Tkachuk and the Florida Panthers.
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no need to fear Oiler fans, Coffey like Lowe knows a little something about winning.
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Defense? Who needs Defense. They need to “make” plays bro!


Hopefully a couple or, if we're lucky a few, take this to heart and are pissed right off. Nobody needs to be treated like that! Are you going to take that? Start demanding trades and lowering your value! While it didn't seem possible, maybe Holland could be put in an even worse situation that he put himself in already!
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Our defense makes 12 more plays and we'd be in the playoffs...

- Paul Coffey
Next day

Coffey: "What are you guys doing with paper and pens? You're supposed to be on the ice practicing"

Nurse: "Uh, we're writing a play coach."

Kulak: "Ya coach, you told us you wanted us to make plays."

Ceci: "Here's what I've got so far. [The Edmonton Oilers' executive office is uncomfortably quiet. Jay Woodcroft, looking anxious, faces CEO Jeff Jackson, whose stern expression is interrupted by the occasional glance at a Magic 8-Ball on his desk.]"

Ekholm: "Good start, lets get Conna written into the opening scene."

Bouchard: "I can't get the lid off my pen."
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After going 8-2 in their last ten games, the Oilers are languising in 13th place, and 6-points out of the second wildcard.

Edmonton is no good.
Yup, they haven't really gained much ground at all. They would likely need another 8 game winning streak in order to leapfrog the teams ahead of them, which I don't see happening unless they continue to face backup goaltenders and tired teams on back to backs.

I'll admit I was a little worried there for a second during their heater. But it's been glorious watching that all come crashing down over these last two losses. Just hilarious.

Edmonton = no good.
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Old 12-17-2023, 01:07 PM   #795
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What kind of "plays" are we talking about?

That doesn't sound like blocks, stick checks and positional plays to me.

Sound like a dude deliriously spewing "offense! offense! offense!" regardless of the player's position.

Is it any wonder they're not sitting on multiple cups already?

Can't begin to understand why. Must be luck and secret league agendas.
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Old 12-17-2023, 01:43 PM   #796
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That quote also says (implies): "You guys aren't doing what I am telling you to do. The problem isn't me, it's you"

Just the WORST kind of coaching. A good coach deflects pressure away from the players (when speaking publicly)
And he said it since day 1 he got there!
Bursts into the room, threatening and blaming them before even starting the job.
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Old 12-17-2023, 02:22 PM   #797
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I don't even care if they're good plays or if they wind up in the back of our net just make some plays dammit!
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Old 12-17-2023, 02:26 PM   #798
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Sound like a dude deliriously spewing "offense! offense! offense!" regardless of the player's position.
Well, it is Paul Coffey.
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They sure haven't taken advantage of their soft schedule, 28 games in and they haven't played a back to back yet, they now have 10 in their next 54 games.

Flames have 4 left
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Well, it is Paul Coffey.
Imagine if that organization was even semi competent.

I said in the PGT last night. I turned the Oilers game on after the Flames game ended, to see the Oilers Playing McDavid and Draisaitl together with 4 minutes left in the game down 5-1. They were both out there cherry picking trying to earn Mcpoints. McDavid was out there to finish off the game. Can you imagine it he got hurt in the last minute of a 5-1 loss because he was out there trying to pad his personal stats.

I guess there are no other skaters on the team who can "make plays".

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