How satisfied are you with the Nazem Kadri deal

[FlamesAddiction]

I was somewhat pessimistic about getting a 1st back in the deal, so I am happy. Curran seems like a good prospect as well.

I am also really happy for Kadri. He was a good player for us and I hope he gets another Cup this year.

[1991 Canadian]

Love it. 10. The only person that should be unhappy with this deal is Olafsson. Poor guy. Toils in Buffalo. First taste of the playoffs with Vegas last year. Poised for a good run with Colorado... and then traded to the Flames.

$1.4 million x3 in salary for a conditional 1st, 2nd and decent prospect. For a 35 year old Kadri. These players rarely move.

Complicated conditions on the 1st round pick, but it'll either be a 2028 or 2029 Colorado 1st rounder. As others have mentioned, with so many picks/prospects in the next 2 drafts, it'll be nice to have one a little further down the road.

The team needs to actually get better to make it matter, but being able to have a 1st round pick when you're trying to compete is such an asset.

[albertGQ]

Do you guys prefer this trade or the assets the Avs gave up for Nelson?

I prefer the Nelson deal but I still like this

[Funkhouser]

I’m happy my CP family is happy w the return, and clearly my expectations were out of line for Naz (and Weegar FWIW), but to not get a single blue chip prospect this week is a fail for me.

Don’t get me wrong, I love draft picks and have faith the Flames will draft well, but at the end of the day, late firsts and 2nd rounders have low likelihood of being impact players. I assumed, based on the Nelson trade last year, or the proposed Pareyko trade, that we should have been able to pry a blue chipper loose somewhere!

Quantity will lead to a team of 3rd liners…I want first liners.

Any word on what the Habs package was?

[calgarywinning]

Originally Posted by Funkhouser

I’m happy my CP family is happy w the return, and clearly my expectations were out of line for Naz (and Weegar FWIW), but to not get a single blue chip prospect this week is a fail for me.

Don’t get me wrong, I love draft picks and have faith the Flames will draft well, but at the end of the day, late firsts and 2nd rounders have low likelihood of being impact players. I assumed, based on the Nelson trade last year, or the proposed Pareyko trade, that we should have been able to pry a blue chipper loose somewhere!

Quantity will lead to a team of 3rd liners…I want first liners.

Any word on what the Habs package was?

The team to speak was built by Treliving whose not having great success in Toronto and lurched us so to speak.

All these talented pieces we've traded away don't fit with the new version of our team and where we need to go. So to recoup and clear the deck and build through the draft is refreshing.

Please remember these players also don't want to toil out through a rebuild and often change their long agreements to complete for a cup or make a difference.

[devo22]

Originally Posted by calgarywinning

Please remember these players also don't want to toil out through a rebuild and often change their long agreements to complete for a cup or make a difference.

I thought it was interesting that in Conroy's presser, when asked about not trading Coleman and Whitecloud, his answer included a short "these two want to be here".

[Itse]

Originally Posted by Funkhouser

I’m happy my CP family is happy w the return, and clearly my expectations were out of line for Naz (and Weegar FWIW), but to not get a single blue chip prospect this week is a fail for me.

Don’t get me wrong, I love draft picks and have faith the Flames will draft well, but at the end of the day, late firsts and 2nd rounders have low likelihood of being impact players. I assumed, based on the Nelson trade last year, or the proposed Pareyko trade, that we should have been able to pry a blue chipper loose somewhere!

Quantity will lead to a team of 3rd liners…I want first liners.

Any word on what the Habs package was?

I voted 9 nine on this trade, but I'm definitely feeling this too.

I get that it's hard to find a trade for higher 1st rounders, even a mid-rounder, as well as blue-chip prospects so I'm not exactly disappointed either, but.

[Southside]

Its true what they say, teams fall in love with their own prospects. We will just have to draft our own and with the number and placement of our picks and our amateur scouting Im sure we'll be fine, albeit delayed a year or two.

[Jason14h]

Originally Posted by Funkhouser

I’m happy my CP family is happy w the return, and clearly my expectations were out of line for Naz (and Weegar FWIW), but to not get a single blue chip prospect this week is a fail for me.

Don’t get me wrong, I love draft picks and have faith the Flames will draft well, but at the end of the day, late firsts and 2nd rounders have low likelihood of being impact players. I assumed, based on the Nelson trade last year, or the proposed Pareyko trade, that we should have been able to pry a blue chipper loose somewhere!

Quantity will lead to a team of 3rd liners…I want first liners.

Any word on what the Habs package was?

This would be my only criticism of the trades over Conroys tenure as well - however this year we didn’t see a single high impact prospect traded (almost 1 for Pareyko)

Teams just don’t trade them anymore . They prefer to bleed picks vs risk the blowback of Forsberg situations

[rhino]

Originally Posted by bigrangy

Way better than the Weegar deal for sure.

-1 point for no A level piece back
-1 point for it being done a year later than it should have been

Sorry if I’m a harsh grader

Curran seems decent, although he’ll need the oil kings stink washed off.

I’d take off another half a point since the team replaced Kadri with 3 NHLers in the accompanying trades instead of leaving spots open for in-system guys but those aren’t part of this trade.

Excellent work overall, a couple more moves in the summer and then this team should be firmly in the build part of the rebuild instead of the demo.

Should have waited for the full conditions, bumping this up to a 9. I'm so used to the conditions being against the Flames that's it's incredible that they're favorable to them for once.

The Weegar deal was a really good return for an over 30 dman with 6 years left on a $6 million dollar deal and not having to retain $. Trading to playoff teams for 1sts typically mean late picks and there is very little variance in say the 22nd pick and pick 35 in terms of quality of player.

[ComixZone]

10/10



Kadri was the most pressing bit of business. Happy to see the Flames deal with the right player at the right time.

Conroy and crew delivered the goods this year.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Jason14h

This would be my only criticism of the trades over Conroys tenure as well - however this year we didn’t see a single high impact prospect traded (almost 1 for Pareyko)

Teams just don’t trade them anymore . They prefer to bleed picks vs risk the blowback of Forsberg situations

There’s are also a chance some of these deferred picks end up better than we think

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by Elkyiv

It's hard to say because it is so dependent on who we draft with those picks.

Who they draft is not relevant to the trade.

If they draft a stud, or a bust, that's on the scouts, not the trade value of the pick today.

Judge the trade based on the perceived value of a late round pick.

[Barnet Flame]

I was going to give it a 9 so that Conny had something to work towards.

But honestly, the return is bordering on perfect because it fits into a longer term strengthening of our rebuild. The late timing of the returns actually suits a long term considered rebuild.

We’ve now got picks we can either use or deal depending on how effective our earlier picks are.

I love it.

[really?]

It’s a good deal, obviously the best Conroy could pull off under the circumstances, but the value of the 2028 1st is muted IMO. If the Avalanche fall off a cliff as some predict the pick may end up as a 2029 pick, and would likely produce a player that could become productive by 2032. The planet might have exploded before that date, so if the Flames start an upward trend in a year or two the pick is likely to be utilized to acquire depth. This is not a bad thing, but it’s very different from acquiring a 2026-27 pick.

As far as the prospect goes, he plays with one of Iginla’s sons, so it is possible they have greater insight into the player then even the Avs do. Overall, this is a solid+ deal, particularly since the Flames were able to accommodate Kadri’s desires. It’s never a bad thing to treat people who have bled for you with respect.

[The Cobra]

I wanted the tank for a number of years, and that's what we have.

The Weegar deal was shocking to me, but without the Kadri deal, it made less sense.

We currently sit 31st, but there is a number of teams right around us.

I get you can't lose them all, but that really needs to be the goal. I get that players will always try very hard (at least the Flame players will), but losing right now will benefit the team more long term.

I don't think they can catch the Canucks, but we can out tank the rest.

[Hackey]

Teams hardly ever trade blue chip prospects. Those are often pipe dreams unless you're trading a young stud the other way like Quinn Hughes. Kadri and Weegar are both older with term. Those aren't guys bringing back blue chip prospects. I understand the sentiment but it's also very unrealistic. I think Utah's 1st in the Weegar deal was our best chance at finding an impact player. If it lands mid 1st round you can still draft stars in that range with semi regularity. That was the only disappointing part of the deal for me is that we weren't able to pry that from them. But it's a minor disappointment because the true impact players will come from our own 1sts over the next few years. The Flames didn't trade for any blue chip prospects but they finally set themselves up to get their own.

[really?]

Originally Posted by Hackey

Teams hardly ever trade blue chip prospects. Those are often pipe dreams unless you're trading a young stud the other way like Quinn Hughes. Kadri and Weegar are both older with term. Those aren't guys bringing back blue chip prospects. I understand the sentiment but it's also very unrealistic. I think Utah's 1st in the Weegar deal was our best chance at finding an impact player. If it lands mid 1st round you can still draft stars in that range with semi regularity. That was the only disappointing part of the deal for me is that we weren't able to pry that from them. But it's a minor disappointment because the true impact players will come from our own 1sts over the next few years. The Flames didn't trade for any blue chip prospects but they finally set themselves up to get their own.

In a deep draft, like this one, there is a likelihood there will be a few 1st liner/ top pairing guys to come out of the second and early third rounds. If they keep the picks the Flames will have six swings at that piñata. Seems they’re well positioned making the Kadri just a sweetener.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by really?

It’s a good deal, obviously the best Conroy could pull off under the circumstances, but the value of the 2028 1st is muted IMO. If the Avalanche fall off a cliff as some predict the pick may end up as a 2029 pick, and would likely produce a player that could become productive by 2032. The planet might have exploded before that date, so if the Flames start an upward trend in a year or two the pick is likely to be utilized to acquire depth. This is not a bad thing, but it’s very different from acquiring a 2026-27 pick.

As far as the prospect goes, he plays with one of Iginla’s sons, so it is possible they have greater insight into the player then even the Avs do. Overall, this is a solid+ deal, particularly since the Flames were able to accommodate Kadri’s desires. It’s never a bad thing to treat people who have bled for you with respect.

If the Avs fall off a cliff, the pick will turn from a late first to a high first. This is precisely why the pick being in 28/29 is much better than it being in 26 or 27.

[Lanny_McDonald]

After sleeping on it and looking more deeply at Curran I've warmed up to this. Conroy extracted a very good return for a guy that had checked out. A first and a second round pick (have we found out the conditions yet???) is solid, but also getting a big center with skill is potential big win.

The amateur scouts are hopefully right on top of things as the two centers they just picked up in these trades are very interesting. Curran is a big guy with a quick trigger. Not the most graceful skater, but he finds the areas to score from and the puck likes to find him. When the puck does find his stick it isn't there very long and forces the goaltender into making a stop or picking it out of the net. Reminds me of Monahan after his first hip injury. Castagna is another interesting guy. Huge motor than never stops running and an assassin in the faceoff dot. The kid has won almost 65% of his faceoffs this year. Good skater, solid two way play, faceoff specialist, and never gives up. Has Stephane Yelle written all over him. Not saying that either of these players are going to achieve those lofty comparisons, but we now have two centers with skills we were sorely lacking prior to the trade deadline. A nice piece of work.

The only thing I still didn't like about this deadline was not moving Coleman. Another diminishing asset that was under the impression he was going to be traded, it will be interesting to see how he reacts and if he pushes the point going forward. Would have liked to see him traded elsewhere (Dallas or Tampa) but those deals went by the wayside. I think Conroy had an ask that may have been out of line based on the movement elsewhere, but time will tell that story. Overall, if this is the only downside I think that is a very successful deadline. I'll bump my vote to an 8.75 (B+).