[Trade] Marner signs (8 x $12 mil AAV) and traded to Vegas for Nik Roy

[dino7c]

8th year probably lowers the AAV too for Vegas

[Macho0978]

Originally Posted by bluejays

Tre can ask, but Vegas likely tells Toronto to shove it and get nothing in 4 days. Marner loses his last year though.

Leafs could send a pick with Marner too. Vegas gets a cheaper AAV for 8 years and Leafs give up a lessor pick

[sureLoss]

Holy Sh*t

Friedman is saying the Leafs are essentially blackmailing Vegas.

He says he thinks the Leafs are threatening to file tampering charges against Vegas unless Vegas sends the Leafs back a good player(s) in a sign and trade.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1939301983665398023

[BeltlineFan]

[Roof-Daddy]

Good.

If they're guilty of tampering I hope they get hammered hard by the league.

It's tough being a lifetime fan of a small market Canadian team and to have to watch these desired destination teams get whatever they want. Including long playoff runs and cups.

[iloveicedhockey]

I mean, it's about time. People will note that the NHL are only stepping in because it's the leafs but still, not sympathy for the knights. The blackmail is BS though. If leafs get what they want the tampering didn't happen?

[Paulie Walnuts]

Pathetic by the Leafs. They got ghosted by Marner. Vegas was willing to trade for him at the deadline and he was going to waive.

Seems like the Leafs are throwing a hissy fit here.

MLSE is a joke lol. Just look at what is happening with them.

[TOfan]

If the league can prove tampering, what would be the punishment?

Money? Stripping draft picks? Both?

[chedder]

Sounds like a big old nothing from Friedman just acting as a mouth for Rogers' darlings. Seems like a desperate move from the wizard.

[TOfan]

Originally Posted by chedder

Sounds like a big old nothing from Friedman just acting as a mouth for Rogers' darlings. Seems like a desperate move from the wizard.

Okay. Objectively, what was Treliving supposed to do here?

He was hired, what?, two-three weeks before Marner’s trade protection kicked in? Bear in mind Treliving was working under Shanahan who most believe was the strongest proponent of the ‘core four’. Dubas was fired, in part, because he wanted to move off of the core four and it was believed he wanted to trade Marner.

Since then, there’s been repeated rumours of the Leafs approaching Marner on extending or accepting a trade. Marner reportedly exercised his right to block a trade at the deadline because his wife was expecting. How is this Treliving’s fault?

I know it’s fashionable to criticize/blame Treliving for everything, but that’s only demonstrates limited mental capacity for understanding context.

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Originally Posted by iloveicedhockey

I mean, it's about time. People will note that the NHL are only stepping in because it's the leafs but still, not sympathy for the knights. The blackmail is BS though. If leafs get what they want the tampering didn't happen?

I don’t think it’s blackmail.

But imagine discussing a sign and trade with a team and they turn around and call the player and say hey why don’t you just sign for free with us in a week. Then you essentially got a free negotiating window with the player.

For the leafs it comes down to the fact that they thought they might be able to extract assets and now Vegas has sidestepped the process and is essentially guilty of tampering.

They would want Vegas to have carried out the trade that they said they were gonna do in the first place.

If of course any of it turns out to be true.

I’m actually surprised this has never happened before although these types of sign trade situations aren’t that common. I’m assuming in most situations the player doesn’t get to talk directly to the receiving team for this exact reason and a lot of it is done through the team that currently holds their rights.

[savemedrzaius]

By the sounds of it Vegas has been in contact for over a year with Marner's camp. This is not just a typical end of season to free agency deal.

[dustygoon]

Seems more like out of court settlement than blackmail.

[CgyFlamesftw]

Originally Posted by savemedrzaius

By the sounds of it Vegas has been in contact for over a year with Marner's camp. This is not just a typical end of season to free agency deal.

If that is true then NHL should totally step in. Getting sick of knights antics at this point.

[Paulie Walnuts]

What antics ?

Tampering happens in every league. Teams don’t just do it other players start recruiting. A lot of these guys are buddies off the ice. What do you think they talk about when they hang out in the summers ?

You can look at our situation. Tkachuk decided he was leaving before he even stepped on the ice in 21/22. Johnny was already thinking about leaving half way through his contract.

LeBron James and Dwayne Wade planned to form a super team when they became free agents 2 years in advance. The Warriors players recruited Durant before he became a free agent.

Nathan MacKinnon and the Avalanche a freaking openly recruiting Crosby. Friedman himself said MacKinnon went to the tournament specifically to recruit Crosby.

[sureLoss]

Originally Posted by tofan

if the league can prove tampering, what would be the punishment?

Money? Stripping draft picks? Both?

https://twitter.com/user/status/1939332330486644903

[iloveicedhockey]

If they have evidence of tampering, then they should provide it to the league, irrespective of other asset exchange. It's a league rule, not a leafs only one.

[sureLoss]

So looking back it appears the Isles did file tampering charges against the Leafs for Tavares but nothing came out of that.

There were rumors that the Blues were considering filing charges against Vegas for Pietrangelo but they never did.

Still not sure how you can prove tampering unless someone was stupid enough to send an e-mail/text with an offer or subtle hint of an offer.

[Badgers Nose]

This whole Marner situation is a rotten mess for the Leafs.

Count on a vulture like Kelly McCrimmon to push things as far as rules allow, maybe passed them. He could smell that expiring contract corpse from miles away. Couldn't help but land to pick the bones clean.

If the accusations turn out to be true, the penalties could really help our 2026 pick from Vegas. Would love a lottery win from the Vegas pick - that would be poetic.

[CgyFlamesftw]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

What antics ?

Tampering happens in every league. Teams don’t just do it other players start recruiting. A lot of these guys are buddies off the ice. What do you think they talk about when they hang out in the summers ?

You can look at our situation. Tkachuk decided he was leaving before he even stepped on the ice in 21/22. Johnny was already thinking about leaving half way through his contract.

LeBron James and Dwayne Wade planned to form a super team when they became free agents 2 years in advance. The Warriors players recruited Durant before he became a free agent.

Nathan MacKinnon and the Avalanche a freaking openly recruiting Crosby. Friedman himself said MacKinnon went to the tournament specifically to recruit Crosby.

There is a difference between players talking and NHL clubs going about it. Sure they can contact their player to recruit a UFA, its still tampering. You dont know their contracts they could have NDA's and what not. Obviously need proof from texts/emails, in which maybe the leafs have.