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Old 12-06-2024, 10:40 AM   #61
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Ed Giacomin on waivers???!!
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Old 12-06-2024, 10:41 AM   #62
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if the jackets get him for close to free, they've made some pretty interesting moves to build a not bad d-core (except the Jiricek trade, didn't much like that).

Werenski - Fabbri
Provorov - Severson
Trouba - Gudbranson

isn't a bad group
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Old 12-06-2024, 10:43 AM   #63
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Ottawa can't be that stupid, can they.
Brady may end up eventually forcing their hand (maybe he already is?). He's tired of being on a losing team, and Ottawa has made a number of significant mistakes in team building:

To ARZ: 1st, 2nd, 2nd
To OTT: Chychrun

One year later, they trade Chychrun for a 3rd and Jensen. Woof.

To CHI: 1st (7th overall), 2nd (39th overall), 3rd
To OTT: Debrincat

One year later, they trade Debrincat for a 1st, and 4th. Yikes.

That's just beyond stupidity.
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Old 12-06-2024, 10:44 AM   #64
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Sooooo…… you’re stuck with a team when you have a NMC?
No. I'm talking about the team not being able to put a NMC guy on waivers. A player can waive any condition he wants. The two uses of waive are entirely different.
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Old 12-06-2024, 10:53 AM   #65
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if the jackets get him for close to free, they've made some pretty interesting moves to build a not bad d-core (except the Jiricek trade, didn't much like that).

Werenski - Fabbri
Provorov - Severson
Trouba - Gudbranson

isn't a bad group
Definitely leave with a few bruises playing that team
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Old 12-06-2024, 10:56 AM   #66
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If Ottawa trades Tkachuk, somebody needs to fired immediately. You don’t trade a guy like that unless he wants out and forces your hand.

Not that I believe the rumor.
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Old 12-06-2024, 11:04 AM   #68
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If Ottawa trades Tkachuk, somebody needs to fired immediately. You don’t trade a guy like that unless he wants out and forces your hand.

Not that I believe the rumor.
That being the key part. If Brady gets traded, it's going to be because Brady wanted to get traded.
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Old 12-06-2024, 11:05 AM   #69
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Is this actually about where he built a house? That’s the smoke?
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That being the key part. If Brady gets traded, it's going to be because Brady wanted to get traded.
It would have to be a massive package going back the other way, perhaps including Laf…
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Is this actually about where he built a house? That’s the smoke?
I would bet Matthew asking for a trade, then going to the Stanley cup finals 2 years in a row and winning a cup could have impacted Brady if he has asked to be traded.
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Old 12-06-2024, 11:10 AM   #72
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Hopefully somebody wants someone to eat part of Trouba's deal for a sweetener. Maybe? Hopefully.
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Hopefully somebody wants someone to eat part of Trouba's deal for a sweetener. Maybe? Hopefully.
I doubt they will. They probably aren't getting a good return and would rather waive than retain. I'm sure Columbus, SJ, Chicago would all be interested in Trouba for free.
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Emily Kaplan says, CLB, OTT, BUF, DET are who she has heard are in on Trouba. Interesting to see Ottawa.
Haha, pick your poison Trouba.
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Hopefully somebody wants someone to eat part of Trouba's deal for a sweetener. Maybe? Hopefully.
Only problem is Flames have limited retention spots due to the Markstrom trade
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I doubt they will. They probably aren't getting a good return and would rather waive than retain. I'm sure Columbus, SJ, Chicago would all be interested in Trouba for free.
I think he means a middle trading partner to take part of the retention of the salary on for a 4th round pick or something. And then trade to the ultimate destination. NYC can trade Trouba to that team 50% and that team trades 50% retained to the ultimate recipient and they end up with Trouba for $2M.

So would the Flames pay Trouba $2M for a year and a half for a 4th?
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It would have to be a massive package going back the other way, perhaps including Laf…
Probably something stupid like a high scoring forward one year away from free agency, a good defenceman one year from free agency, a 1st, and some sort of recent 2nd round pick.
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I think he means a middle trading partner to take part of the retention of the salary on for a 4th round pick or something. And then trade to the ultimate destination. NYC can trade Trouba to that team 50% and that team trades 50% retained to the ultimate recipient and they end up with Trouba for $2M.

So would the Flames pay Trouba $2M for a year and a half for a 4th?
Yeah you are right. Mis read that.

4th isn't enough to retain for 2 years and waste one of our spots.

Rumored teams don't really need it either
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Yeah you are right. Mis read that.

4th isn't enough to retain for 2 years and waste one of our spots.

Rumored teams don't really need it either
Agreed, if the Flames would use a retention, return is higher than a 4th.
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Yeah you are right. Mis read that.

4th isn't enough to retain for 2 years and waste one of our spots.

Rumored teams don't really need it either
True, though I don't see why the rumoured teams want Trouba at all - he's a guy a contender adds, not a developer. There's gotta be a lot bigger trade if it's say, Ottawa.
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