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View Poll Results: What will the Oilers (not you) do?
Match both 75 15.69%
Match Broberg 49 10.25%
Match Holloway 211 44.14%
Match Neither 143 29.92%
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Old 08-13-2024, 09:10 AM   #61
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Here is the report on it from Staples (just his thoughts - not all the tweets he reposted):
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1. I can’t see the Oilers letting go of these two players. At worst, Edmonton would match the offer, then trade both players in the hopes of getting more than a second round pick for Broberg and a third round pick for Holloway. Both are worth more than the NHL compensation scheme allows.
2. Suddenly, the talk of Evander Kane from Bob Stauffer of the Oilers makes far more sense to me. If Kane is banged up at all, it would make sense that he have time to fully recover. If he’s out for a few months doing so, this will give Edmonton time to either move out Broberg or Holloway, or trade away some other players in order to get cap compliant.
3. Of course, you also match because you don’t want to give St. Louis a win out of this, and getting Broberg and Holloway for those prices a great deal for them. Offer sheets are within the collective bargaining agreement, but they’re still resented in the NHL to some extent. I can see little chance that the OIlers would let the Blues walk away with their two players.
4. Outsiders celebrating this move today? Hey, it’s a free world, but it’s interesting to see which supposedly impartial NHL observers dislike the Oilers."

Ummm hilarious... I believe it was mentioned earlier in this thread that they can't trade either player for one full year from the offer sheet signing, so there goes his #1 point. You would think that a "professional writer" would know the situation before making that suggestion. LOL
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Old 08-13-2024, 09:10 AM   #62
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Hahahaha I love it.

A lot of you are sleeping on Broberg. He was behind Ekholm and pylon. If he gets a legitimate chance at a top 4 role in STL this will look like a bargain.

Oilers likely match Holloway and just find a garbage D for the bottom pairing. This will get Edmonton scrambling for sure.
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If the Oilers match both then they’re going to have to offer an insane package to get rid of Nurse or a 1st to get rid of Ceci. It’s a win-win for Oilers haters.
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Old 08-13-2024, 09:11 AM   #64
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I advocated the Flames to do it for Broberg and I would do that for any team in a second if cap space isn't a problem. The upside is huge and if he bombs you get out of the deal in two years.
It said 4 years at first.

It's fine for the Blues. The Flames aren't in a position to waste picks on these types of players. We can weaponize our space to take on picks with a bad contract.
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Old 08-13-2024, 09:12 AM   #65
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When you think of the rest of the job it makes sense.

You need a working relationship with other GMs in order to best find value for assets.

You want to be in the loop.

But it doesn't hurt if you're well liked in the community when you need someone to say take some cap space to complete a deal.

I can see the blind side guy not getting the same looks as the place nice with others guy.
Have to consider that Bowman is not respected by the league. If anything, sticking it to him would help bolster a GM’s standing amongst other GMs.
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The oilers are positioned to lose a player drafted 8th overall and another drafted 14th overall for a 2nd and 3rd round pick.

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It said 4 years at first.

It's fine for the Blues. The Flames aren't in a position to waste picks on these types of players. We can weaponize our space to take on picks with a bad contract.

Broberg is 23, I don't see it as a waste of a pick at all. He was very good in the finals against the Panthers and has all the tools. I think the upside is massive and the downside minimal for the Blues.
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Old 08-13-2024, 09:17 AM   #69
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The oilers are positioned to lose a player drafted 8th overall and another drafted 14th overall for a 2nd and 3rd round pick.

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You're missing the first round pick

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Old 08-13-2024, 09:18 AM   #70
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Here is the report on it from Staples (just his thoughts - not all the tweets he reposted):
"My take
1. I can’t see the Oilers letting go of these two players. At worst, Edmonton would match the offer, then trade both players in the hopes of getting more than a second round pick for Broberg and a third round pick for Holloway. Both are worth more than the NHL compensation scheme allows.
2. Suddenly, the talk of Evander Kane from Bob Stauffer of the Oilers makes far more sense to me. If Kane is banged up at all, it would make sense that he have time to fully recover. If he’s out for a few months doing so, this will give Edmonton time to either move out Broberg or Holloway, or trade away some other players in order to get cap compliant.
3. Of course, you also match because you don’t want to give St. Louis a win out of this, and getting Broberg and Holloway for those prices a great deal for them. Offer sheets are within the collective bargaining agreement, but they’re still resented in the NHL to some extent. I can see little chance that the OIlers would let the Blues walk away with their two players.
4. Outsiders celebrating this move today? Hey, it’s a free world, but it’s interesting to see which supposedly impartial NHL observers dislike the Oilers."

Ummm hilarious... I believe it was mentioned earlier in this thread that they can't trade either player for one full year from the offer sheet signing, so there goes his #1 point. You would think that a "professional writer" would know the situation before making that suggestion. LOL
Staples doesn't know the rules. Classic

regarding number 4: what a loon

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Huh? Brobergs compensation is a 2nd round pick and Holloways is a 3rd according to the first post.
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i love it!!


one of my customers was by this morning that is a HUGE oil fan - he's not happy
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Yes! Some excitement in the dog days of summer at the Oilers expense.
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Old 08-13-2024, 09:23 AM   #74
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Huh? Brobergs compensation is a 2nd round pick and Holloways is a 3rd according to the first post.
At the prices stated in the OP it's a 1st and 3rd for Broberg and a 2nd for Holloway

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Beautiful

I love the gentleman’s agreement trade between Pit and StL, to let StL reacquire their pick, that then enables them to put the screws to Edmonton
Great job recognizing this, enormously underrated part of this move. Two well run organizations colluding to screw one that's...not
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At the prices stated in the OP it's a 1st and 3rd for Broberg and a 2nd for Holloway

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Nah its a 2nd and 3rd.

Blues made sure they made the max offer for the compensation bracket.

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What I like about this is the message to Pissy that his teammates are going to look after their own interests and not take a million dollar haircut to stay with the oilers.

Draisaitl is out of touch with the bottom half of the roster.
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If it goes through beyond cap turmoil the grease must be the oldest team in the league.
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Old 08-13-2024, 09:28 AM   #79
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This is amazing lol
So if Kane goes on LTIR through some BS reason does that leave enough room for Oilers to match or are they screwed even with that?
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I suspect the Blues are hoping the Oilers will match one, and not be able to match the other. Remember when San Jose offersheet Hjalmarsson, and when Chicago matched they had to walk away from Niemi's arb award, and San Jose went and signed him?
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