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Old 09-12-2023, 11:36 AM   #61
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I would just say I don't own a cell phone, sorry dude. You aren't legally required to own one. A old-school, crotchety, conservative, crusty curmudgeon like Babock would probably respect that response anyways.
I wouldn’t do that; he won’t believe it. I’d tell him to **** off as he has no right to demand to see my phone. All of the players should do that and the team would shut this down. The players’ association would support them.
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Old 09-12-2023, 11:39 AM   #62
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There are some that get their jollies by humiliating others and creating toxicity while in a position of power. Babcock is one of those.

Yet the NHL and hockey world keeps wanting to recycle these guys. Peters, Babcock, Quenneville.

If it wasn't for past Babcock allegations this likely would have been kept silent to be a team player, good to see the new allegations come out. Players shouldn't have to put up with this BS.
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Old 09-12-2023, 11:42 AM   #63
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I wouldn’t do that; he won’t believe it. I’d tell him to **** off as he has no right to demand to see my phone. All of the players should do that and the team would shut this down. The players’ association would support them.
Possibly; I'd still tell him I have no cell phone and look him dead in the eyes while saying it. He can't physically go through your pockets, that would be assault. If Babcock wants to ask stupid questions, he should be prepared for stupid answers.
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Possibly; I'd still tell him I have no cell phone and look him dead in the eyes while saying it. He can't physically go through your pockets, that would be assault. If Babcock wants to ask stupid questions, he should be prepared for stupid answers.
I'd do similar but bring up a pic of my Babcock while looking him dead in the eyes. Did similar to a guy who catfished my kid.
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You'd think this would put Jarmo on thin ice as well. Just a colossally stupid hire.
With you. Jarmo goes down with this sinking ship if this is true.
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Old 09-12-2023, 12:06 PM   #67
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Seems weird. Like something no one would do. Hopefully there’s some kind of followup with an explanation.
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Old 09-12-2023, 12:08 PM   #68
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If it is true that is bizarre. I think I will wait for more info on this before jumping to conclusions though. The media and especially a guy like Biz would have no problem twisting a story to get attention. I am not saying it isn't true and if it is why in the hell would any player go along with it? On the other hand if Babcock asked players to show me some things you did over this summer from your phone photos so I get an idea of who you are as a person I could totally see a guy like Biz warping that into something it isn't. So ya, I will wait for the whole story to come out before lighting the torches.
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I am not saying it isn't true and if it is why in the hell would any player go along with it?
Because the coach controls your ice time and opportunities. Some players have enough pull that they can probably refuse, but younger players especially are then put in a crappy situation to either go along with it or say no and ruin your relationship with the coach.
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If it is true that is bizarre. I think I will wait for more info on this before jumping to conclusions though. The media and especially a guy like Biz would have no problem twisting a story to get attention. I am not saying it isn't true and if it is why in the hell would any player go along with it? On the other hand if Babcock asked players to show me some things you did over this summer from your phone photos so I get an idea of who you are as a person I could totally see a guy like Biz warping that into something it isn't. So ya, I will wait for the whole story to come out before lighting the torches.
There's no reason to try to find a possible scenario where what's reported would be not as bad if given in more normal context. Fact is Babcock called players into his office one by one, told them to sit down, unlock their phone and pass it over.
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If it is true that is bizarre. I think I will wait for more info on this before jumping to conclusions though. The media and especially a guy like Biz would have no problem twisting a story to get attention. I am not saying it isn't true and if it is why in the hell would any player go along with it? On the other hand if Babcock asked players to show me some things you did over this summer from your phone photos so I get an idea of who you are as a person I could totally see a guy like Biz warping that into something it isn't. So ya, I will wait for the whole story to come out before lighting the torches.
No need to light the torches, for sure. But is there any good reason, ever, for a coach to ask for a player’s phone? Why not just ask, “Hey, what did you get up to this summer?” You know, like a human would say.
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If it is true that is bizarre. I think I will wait for more info on this before jumping to conclusions though. The media and especially a guy like Biz would have no problem twisting a story to get attention. I am not saying it isn't true and if it is why in the hell would any player go along with it? On the other hand if Babcock asked players to show me some things you did over this summer from your phone photos so I get an idea of who you are as a person I could totally see a guy like Biz warping that into something it isn't. So ya, I will wait for the whole story to come out before lighting the torches.
But right now it sounds like he went through his phone as opposed to asking to view summer vacation pictures.

You don't need to see the picture to get to know someone better.

He probably wasn't going through the phone to look for pics of Jenners shirmpy but it does seem like a breach of privacy for reasons we don't know yet.
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Old 09-12-2023, 12:19 PM   #73
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Also, who in the heck asks for your phone to see your vacation pics? You would probably hold the phone and swipe through for them.

So weird.
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There's no reason to try to find a possible scenario where what's reported would be not as bad if given in more normal context. Fact is Babcock called players into his office one by one, told them to sit down, unlock their phone and pass it over.
I think Dissentowners point is we don't know that this is a fact yet, and we certainly don't know if it was more than one player.

Hell not all players will have even reported to the city for training camp yet.

Either way though it's going to put Columbus in a bad position...even if the story is only partially true it's clear there probably is going to be a strained relationship between Babcock and their captain Jenner either way since Jenner was named.

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Also, who in the heck asks for your phone to see your vacation pics? You would probably hold the phone and swipe through for them.

So weird.
Mike Babcock does.
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Old 09-12-2023, 12:21 PM   #76
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As Dr.Evil once said:

"How 'bout NO! You crazy Dutch bastard."

Jesus Babcock is an idiot.

Players can and should be able to say no though. Privacy is real, even for hockey players. Would Babcock seriously bench Gaudreau if he told him to pound sand? I think not.

Also if people aren't using secure folders for their "private" collection, stop using phones. A small modicum of respect for yourself and those who sent you their bits.
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Old 09-12-2023, 12:22 PM   #77
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What an idiot. And what an idiotic decision to hire him.
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I think Dissentowners point is we don't know that this is a fact yet, and we certainly don't know if it was more than one player.

Hell not all players will have even reported to the city for training camp yet.
No, there's no room for nuance. We're jumping to conclusions damnit!
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What an idiot. And what an idiotic decision to hire him.
They could be entering the season with a lot to look forward to. Infusion of young talent, their “new” guys are settled. But instead, they have to deal with this guy.
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