09-12-2023, 11:36 AM
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#61
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Muta
I would just say I don't own a cell phone, sorry dude. You aren't legally required to own one. A old-school, crotchety, conservative, crusty curmudgeon like Babock would probably respect that response anyways.
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I wouldn’t do that; he won’t believe it. I’d tell him to **** off as he has no right to demand to see my phone. All of the players should do that and the team would shut this down. The players’ association would support them.
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09-12-2023, 11:39 AM
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#62
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#1 Goaltender
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There are some that get their jollies by humiliating others and creating toxicity while in a position of power. Babcock is one of those.
Yet the NHL and hockey world keeps wanting to recycle these guys. Peters, Babcock, Quenneville.
If it wasn't for past Babcock allegations this likely would have been kept silent to be a team player, good to see the new allegations come out. Players shouldn't have to put up with this BS.
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09-12-2023, 11:42 AM
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#63
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Auckland, NZ
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MoneyGuy
I wouldn’t do that; he won’t believe it. I’d tell him to **** off as he has no right to demand to see my phone. All of the players should do that and the team would shut this down. The players’ association would support them.
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Possibly; I'd still tell him I have no cell phone and look him dead in the eyes while saying it. He can't physically go through your pockets, that would be assault. If Babcock wants to ask stupid questions, he should be prepared for stupid answers.
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09-12-2023, 11:44 AM
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#64
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Franchise Player
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What a dumbass
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09-12-2023, 11:44 AM
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#65
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Lifetime Suspension
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Muta
Possibly; I'd still tell him I have no cell phone and look him dead in the eyes while saying it. He can't physically go through your pockets, that would be assault. If Babcock wants to ask stupid questions, he should be prepared for stupid answers.
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I'd do similar but bring up a pic of my Babcock while looking him dead in the eyes. Did similar to a guy who catfished my kid.
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09-12-2023, 11:59 AM
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#66
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Bay Area
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Originally Posted by GirlySports
You'd think this would put Jarmo on thin ice as well. Just a colossally stupid hire.
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With you. Jarmo goes down with this sinking ship if this is true.
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09-12-2023, 12:06 PM
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#67
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Franchise Player
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Seems weird. Like something no one would do. Hopefully there’s some kind of followup with an explanation.
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09-12-2023, 12:08 PM
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#68
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: SW Ontario
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If it is true that is bizarre. I think I will wait for more info on this before jumping to conclusions though. The media and especially a guy like Biz would have no problem twisting a story to get attention. I am not saying it isn't true and if it is why in the hell would any player go along with it? On the other hand if Babcock asked players to show me some things you did over this summer from your phone photos so I get an idea of who you are as a person I could totally see a guy like Biz warping that into something it isn't. So ya, I will wait for the whole story to come out before lighting the torches.
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09-12-2023, 12:11 PM
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#69
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dissentowner
I am not saying it isn't true and if it is why in the hell would any player go along with it?
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Because the coach controls your ice time and opportunities. Some players have enough pull that they can probably refuse, but younger players especially are then put in a crappy situation to either go along with it or say no and ruin your relationship with the coach.
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09-12-2023, 12:15 PM
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#70
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Park Hyatt Tokyo
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dissentowner
If it is true that is bizarre. I think I will wait for more info on this before jumping to conclusions though. The media and especially a guy like Biz would have no problem twisting a story to get attention. I am not saying it isn't true and if it is why in the hell would any player go along with it? On the other hand if Babcock asked players to show me some things you did over this summer from your phone photos so I get an idea of who you are as a person I could totally see a guy like Biz warping that into something it isn't. So ya, I will wait for the whole story to come out before lighting the torches.
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There's no reason to try to find a possible scenario where what's reported would be not as bad if given in more normal context. Fact is Babcock called players into his office one by one, told them to sit down, unlock their phone and pass it over.
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09-12-2023, 12:16 PM
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#71
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dissentowner
If it is true that is bizarre. I think I will wait for more info on this before jumping to conclusions though. The media and especially a guy like Biz would have no problem twisting a story to get attention. I am not saying it isn't true and if it is why in the hell would any player go along with it? On the other hand if Babcock asked players to show me some things you did over this summer from your phone photos so I get an idea of who you are as a person I could totally see a guy like Biz warping that into something it isn't. So ya, I will wait for the whole story to come out before lighting the torches.
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No need to light the torches, for sure. But is there any good reason, ever, for a coach to ask for a player’s phone? Why not just ask, “Hey, what did you get up to this summer?” You know, like a human would say.
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09-12-2023, 12:17 PM
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#72
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Lifetime Suspension
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dissentowner
If it is true that is bizarre. I think I will wait for more info on this before jumping to conclusions though. The media and especially a guy like Biz would have no problem twisting a story to get attention. I am not saying it isn't true and if it is why in the hell would any player go along with it? On the other hand if Babcock asked players to show me some things you did over this summer from your phone photos so I get an idea of who you are as a person I could totally see a guy like Biz warping that into something it isn't. So ya, I will wait for the whole story to come out before lighting the torches.
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But right now it sounds like he went through his phone as opposed to asking to view summer vacation pictures.
You don't need to see the picture to get to know someone better.
He probably wasn't going through the phone to look for pics of Jenners shirmpy but it does seem like a breach of privacy for reasons we don't know yet.
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09-12-2023, 12:19 PM
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#73
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Taking a while to get to 5000
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Also, who in the heck asks for your phone to see your vacation pics? You would probably hold the phone and swipe through for them.
So weird.
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09-12-2023, 12:20 PM
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#74
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Calgary, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by topfiverecords
There's no reason to try to find a possible scenario where what's reported would be not as bad if given in more normal context. Fact is Babcock called players into his office one by one, told them to sit down, unlock their phone and pass it over.
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I think Dissentowners point is we don't know that this is a fact yet, and we certainly don't know if it was more than one player.
Hell not all players will have even reported to the city for training camp yet.
Either way though it's going to put Columbus in a bad position...even if the story is only partially true it's clear there probably is going to be a strained relationship between Babcock and their captain Jenner either way since Jenner was named.
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09-12-2023, 12:20 PM
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#75
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Lifetime Suspension
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Toonage
Also, who in the heck asks for your phone to see your vacation pics? You would probably hold the phone and swipe through for them.
So weird.
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Mike Babcock does.
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09-12-2023, 12:21 PM
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#76
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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As Dr.Evil once said:
"How 'bout NO! You crazy Dutch bastard."
Jesus Babcock is an idiot.
Players can and should be able to say no though. Privacy is real, even for hockey players. Would Babcock seriously bench Gaudreau if he told him to pound sand? I think not.
Also if people aren't using secure folders for their "private" collection, stop using phones. A small modicum of respect for yourself and those who sent you their bits.
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09-12-2023, 12:22 PM
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#77
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First round-bust
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: speculating about AHL players
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What an idiot. And what an idiotic decision to hire him.
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09-12-2023, 12:25 PM
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#78
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Park Hyatt Tokyo
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SuperMatt18
I think Dissentowners point is we don't know that this is a fact yet, and we certainly don't know if it was more than one player.
Hell not all players will have even reported to the city for training camp yet.
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No, there's no room for nuance. We're jumping to conclusions damnit!
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09-12-2023, 12:27 PM
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#79
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Pent-up
Join Date: Mar 2018
Location: Plutanamo Bay.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheScorpion
What an idiot. And what an idiotic decision to hire him.
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They could be entering the season with a lot to look forward to. Infusion of young talent, their “new” guys are settled. But instead, they have to deal with this guy.
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09-12-2023, 12:28 PM
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#80
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First round-bust
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: speculating about AHL players
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