[News] Buyouts - Wheeler, Yamamoto, Reilly, Duchene

[flamingred89]

Wasn't the Deangelo trade scrapped for cap circumvention? Which is clearly what happened with the Holland-Yzerman connection here. I guess it would've been hard to prove at the time but there needs to be some kind of block from the NHL here.

Unless Kostin really is the piece and signs a contract with the Red Wings. They do have a long history with Russian players. So even though it's rumoured that Kostin wants to go back to the KHL, maybe the russian connection in Motown is strong enough to keep him in the league.

Also, how the #### are the Oilers continually getting bailed out by other teams the last few seasons???

[timbit]

Originally Posted by Toonage

Duchene is team poison. Colorado, Ottawa, Nashville. Where is the success? He shows up, team regresses. No thanks.

Absolutely correct.

Lots of talent and salary but questionable commitment.

[genetic_phreek]

Originally Posted by PeteMoss

You don't give the guy 8 years - he doesn't sign. You just have to build the buyout into your plan.

And in most non-Nashville markets - the GM probably isn't going to be around when the contract goes south anyways.

Basically what happened here.

[Jason14h]

Detroit isn't going to be at the cap anyways so the dead cap is irrelevant to them

So they payed some real money for a depth player they want (I assume they want as he was the sweetener)

How is this any different then trading Yama with a 6th pick for example. Detroit values Kostin more then a 6th/7th pick (As would I)

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by HighLifeMan

Yeah.. GM's really need to band together to stop this nonsense.

That's called collusion. I remember when baseball owners did that. it did not end well for them.

[Calgary4LIfe]

Originally Posted by The Cobra

That's called collusion. I remember when baseball owners did that. it did not end well for them.

i doubt there is going to be much appetite to fix it, but this has already been addressed. Max contract lengths was established to 7-8 years. One could theorize that they can be downgraded further to 6-7 years, or even 5-6. However, I think the players would demand something substantial back, and there are probably enough owners right now who probably don't see it as a big enough problem.


It is only collusion if they all do it together without involving the players. What we have never failed to see yet is teams trying to take advantage of any loopholes that they can to gain an advantage, necessitating yet another change later on. It seems fairly impossible for these teams to collude.

[FiveSeven]

What in the F is actually going on this offseason? Absolutely baffling moves and offers left and right.
Did every GM lose like 40 IQ?

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by Calgary4LIfe

i doubt there is going to be much appetite to fix it, but this has already been addressed. Max contract lengths was established to 7-8 years. One could theorize that they can be downgraded further to 6-7 years, or even 5-6. However, I think the players would demand something substantial back, and there are probably enough owners right now who probably don't see it as a big enough problem.


It is only collusion if they all do it together without involving the players. What we have never failed to see yet is teams trying to take advantage of any loopholes that they can to gain an advantage, necessitating yet another change later on. It seems fairly impossible for these teams to collude.

The expression "owners need to band together" suggested doing it behind players back.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by FiveSeven

What in the F is actually going on this offseason? Absolutely baffling moves and offers left and right.
Did every GM lose like 40 IQ?

If you accept for a minute that few teams have any cap, everything becomes easily explainable and logical.

Teams budget based on the cap rising each year.

The pandemic but a lid on that. So many teams have so little cap and needing to give raises to deserving players (which normally would be accomplished with a rising cap) has resulted in decent but highly capped players being given away or bought out.

[rain_e]

Yzerman has proven he knows how to build a team. He did this for Detroit's benefit.

[dino7c]

Kostin was the Oilers best player in the playoffs outside the top guys

This is a decent move by Detroit, he is rfa


It's not some massive win for the Oilers they have even less depth now

[CSharp]

Duschene on a line with Huberdeau would look good but only if the price makes sense.

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Basically paid close to a $1 million and minimal cap hit over the next 2 years for Kostin.

They could have sent Kostin an offer sheet at 1.4 million and if the Oilers did not match because of their cap situation have gotten Kostin for free.

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by Aarongavey

They could have sent Kostin an offer sheet at 1.4 million and if the Oilers did not match because of their cap situation have gotten Kostin for free.

He's not signing for 1.4.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by Aarongavey

They could have sent Kostin an offer sheet at 1.4 million and if the Oilers did not match because of their cap situation have gotten Kostin for free.

And if they did match, they wouldn't get him. And the odds are Edmonton matches.

Why risk something occurring when you can prevent it with basically no cost?

[GranteedEV]

Yamamoto would look interesting in Florida on a line with Tkachuk and Bennett

Duchene could really help the Avs

Rielly is meh af

Wheeler could be a useful bottom sixer but might just retire, he seemed pretty done last year

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Aarongavey

They could have sent Kostin an offer sheet at 1.4 million and if the Oilers did not match because of their cap situation have gotten Kostin for free.

He reportedly already turned down 1.3 from the Oilers

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by GranteedEV

Yamamoto would look interesting in Florida on a line with Tkachuk and Bennett

Duchene could really help the Avs

Rielly is meh af

Wheeler could be a useful bottom sixer but might just retire, he seemed pretty done last year

why? they trying to get worse

[Vinny01]

I think some contenders with needs in their top 6 will be able to sign Wheeler and Duchene to pretty team friendly deals with the players hoping padding their stats on a one year deal and then cashing in on a rising cap next year makes sense.

[CSharp]

Originally Posted by Tkachukwagon

https://twitter.com/user/status/1674811819586891776

I don’t really agree Salim

I wouldn't agree with him either. Yamamoto is decent but a small player trying to play like he's Looch. Hence, he got injured quite a bit. He tries hard down low along the boards and loses a lot of battles. For an unsure team of where the Flames are heading, just pass and let the younger kids come in and don't waste a spot and cap space on the roster. Oilers lost Kostin's bottom six size and grit just to get rid of Yamamoto.