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Old 06-06-2023, 12:27 PM   #61
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Jarmo will need a #1 centre now.
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Old 06-06-2023, 12:27 PM   #62
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Disappointed that one of the most defence-desperate teams is out as a partner for a potential Hanifin deal.

Wonder if this is the first step in a full-on rebuild for the Flyers. Ellis looks like he’s done, and that defence was already one of the worst in the NHL.
Eh. Getting Provorov at 70% for a late 1st is better than getting Hanifin
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Old 06-06-2023, 12:28 PM   #63
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I get that...but man, looking at Provorov to be part of that? Eeeesh.

Acquiring players from a losing culture to help establish a winning culture in a losing culture?

Two losings doesn't make one winnings...or something

This strikes me as a deal not dissimilar to Philly acquiring Ristolainen. It just doesn't notably change the fate of the team in my eyes.
I think those are fair concerns, but it's a fine line to walk.

Gaudreau, Laine, Johnson, Carlsson (presumably), Marchenko to build around up front
Werenski, Provorov, Jiricek and Boqvist to build around on the back

I think they are primed to get better in a hurry
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Old 06-06-2023, 12:29 PM   #64
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Lindholm for 3OA and hanifin for nylander are still there to be had!
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30% of Provorov's AAV costs just over $2M. Petersen is set to make $5M.

So what does LA have to pay to clear $3M in cap space for the next two years?
Sounds like they are sending a 2nd to Philly as part of the deal
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Old 06-06-2023, 12:31 PM   #66
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Jarmo will need a #1 centre now.
Lindholm for Johnson. Do it Jarmo lol
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Old 06-06-2023, 12:31 PM   #67
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Lindholm for 3OA and hanifin for nylander are still there to be had!
IMO, keep dreaming. In a big draft you’re not dealing the 3OA on a rebuilding team far away from competing for a guy potentially on his last contract. That’s nothing to say if lindholm’s ability but simply his age. Hanifin for Nylander is entirely possible based on the fit.
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Old 06-06-2023, 12:34 PM   #68
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IMO, keep dreaming. In a big draft you’re not dealing the 3OA on a rebuilding team far away from competing for a guy potentially on his last contract. That’s nothing to say if lindholm’s ability but simply his age. Hanifin for Nylander is entirely possible based on the fit.
Not really that serious… just playing off of the discussions that have been in here and the media…
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Sadly, this puts the 3rd OA trade to rest imo. They are probably rolling with drafting a center at the draft. Won't be shocked if Carlsson or Smith are in a Blue Jackets Jersey in a few weeks. And yes, this is one less spot for Hanifin to be traded.
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Old 06-06-2023, 12:35 PM   #70
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Jarmo will need a #1 centre now.
I've been really hoping for Lindholm for 3OA but I think this trade actually decreases the chances of that happening. No way Columbus leaves with no 1sts in this draft.
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Old 06-06-2023, 12:36 PM   #71
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Provorov never developed into the stud number 1 Dman everyone thought he'd be. Already 26 years old.
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Old 06-06-2023, 12:41 PM   #72
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This seems like a really good hockey trade all around.
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Old 06-06-2023, 12:43 PM   #73
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Lol @ posters disappointed the Flames didn't move Hanifin to the Jackets for that mediocre return.
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I think too many people are overrating Provorov.


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In the end, Provorov would get his fourth Barry Ashbee Trophy (given to the team’s best defenseman) but it was a hollow honor given the quality of his competition and his poor end-of-season results. Provorov finished with just 27 points, his lowest point-per-game rate since 2018-19. His minus-17 was second-worst on the defense — to DeAngelo, who was also the only Flyers defenseman to perform worse by xG rates. And no Philadelphia blueliner ended up with a worse on-ice goal differential at five-on-five: 76 goals against and 56 for.

3 straight poor seasons.


https://theathletic.com/4572706/2023...-trade-roster/
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Old 06-06-2023, 12:45 PM   #75
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Surprised nobody posted this:

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Disappointed that one of the most defence-desperate teams is out as a partner for a potential Hanifin deal.

Wonder if this is the first step in a full-on rebuild for the Flyers. Ellis looks like he’s done, and that defence was already one of the worst in the NHL.
you really think one okay dman has solved all their problems?
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Old 06-06-2023, 12:49 PM   #77
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https://twitter.com/user/status/1666154798511423503


So details reported so far:

CBJ:
Provorov (30% retained by LAK)

LAK:
nothing

Flyers:
Sean Walker
Cal Petersen
22nd OA 2023 draft
2nd round pick from LAK
Helge Grans
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Old 06-06-2023, 12:53 PM   #78
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https://twitter.com/user/status/1666154798511423503


So details reported so far:

CBJ:
Provorov (30% retained by LAK)

LAK:
nothing

Flyers:
Sean Walker
Cal Petersen
22nd OA 2023 draft
2nd round pick from LAK
Helge Grans
What are the total cap savings for LA? Must be $3M at least
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Old 06-06-2023, 12:55 PM   #79
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Gave them just enough to re up Gavrikov
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Sadly, this puts the 3rd OA trade to rest imo. They are probably rolling with drafting a center at the draft. Won't be shocked if Carlsson or Smith are in a Blue Jackets Jersey in a few weeks. And yes, this is one less spot for Hanifin to be traded.
If it's Smith he'll put one on, but he won't play in one next season.
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