[News] UPD: Tkachuk arbitration hearing set for Aug 11

[OptimalTates]

Originally Posted by Jay Random

Tkachuk already had to make that decision.

What this does is force him to come to the negotiating table, instead of making the decision in the next four days so he can walk without negotiating.

Tkachuk’s camp could do nothing and he’ll be awarded 9M by the arbitrator. Literally not show up.

Not sure if it forces negotiations if he wasn’t having them. It may have given them more time to negotiate, which is the only potential positive of this situation.

[Bonded]

Buys them some more time to trade him to a team if he doesn't want long term I guess

[Ashasx]

Originally Posted by OptimalTates

Wonder if they were afraid of another holdout.

Brady’s holdout cost him a couple games. But you also miss out on training camp and the team doesn’t come out firing right away. Especially a team with a major change like losing Gaudreau requiring new line combinations. Of course the player can take some time to find their footing too.

Worst case scenario for the Flames is Tkachuk sucking and leaving next year, I guess this limits Tkachuk sucking because he missed out on pre-season.

My guess is the Flames weren't afraid of anything except for the potential of a one-year offer sheet just below the four 1st round picks threshold ($10.5MM)

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by rhino

Or they knew he was going to sign it and walk in a year so arbitration could award less than 9 million

No way he'd get awarded less than 9 million

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I think it's 99% likely he walks to UFA.

Odd circumstances for him though, if he's a UFA now, a lot of teams have spent what they'd planned to, signing him to the deal he wants may take some maneuvering.

[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by activeStick

Doing this forces Tkachuk to make a decision - does he want to cash in on his 100+ point season and guarantee a larger total sum of money over some number of years? Or does he think he'll get similar offers from teams (including the Flames) in a year? Can he be certain he will get the same number of points and won't get injured?

The loss of Gaudreau is a built-in excuse for any decrease in production. His agent will point to this past season as what he can do with elite talent and someone will pay the piper.

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by rhino

The arbitrator cannot award less that 85% of last seasons contract which would be $5.95 million however the Flames offer could be more but it wont be 9 million.

Tkachuk made 9 million dollars last year, so if they 85% rule if accurate that would be 7.65 million.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by Icon

I think it's 99% likely he walks to UFA.

Odd circumstances for him though, if he's a UFA now, a lot of teams have spent what they'd planned to, signing him to the deal he wants may take some maneuvering.

He would become a ufa next summer

[Jiri Hrdina]

Isn’t this just about having more time to negotiate? What am I missing?

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

My guess is the Flames weren't afraid of anything except for the potential of a one-year offer sheet just below the four 1st round picks threshold ($10.5MM)

Exactly, gives the Flames a little more control but this doesn't really give me much hope he is signing here. Another Gaudreau domino if the rumors were true he would have signed if Gaudreau did.

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Doesn't this mean if an arbitrator decides on say a $9.5mil deal, since it was the team that filed for arbitration, Tkachuk's side would have to accept, and if he doesn't then he's a UFA? (basically the same as player filed arbitration, but from the other party)

Pretty sure this just buys them negotiating time at the cost of leverage.

[neo45]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Isn’t this just about having more time to negotiate? What am I missing?

Eliminates offer sheets and holdout scenario

[Ashasx]

Originally Posted by Icon

Doesn't this mean if an arbitrator decides on say a $9.5mil deal, since it was the team that filed for arbitration, Tkachuk's side would have to accept, and if he doesn't then he's a UFA?

Pretty sure this just buys them negotiating time at the cost of leverage.

Tkachuk has no choice but to accept.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by Icon

Doesn't this mean if an arbitrator decides on say a $9.5mil deal, since it was the team that filed for arbitration, Tkachuk's side would have to accept, and if he doesn't then he's a UFA? (basically the same as player filed arbitration, but from the other party)

Pretty sure this just buys them negotiating time at the cost of leverage.

No I don’t think so. He can’t become a ufa this summer

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Icon

Doesn't this mean if an arbitrator decides on say a $9.5mil deal, since it was the team that filed for arbitration, Tkachuk's side would have to accept, and if he doesn't then he's a UFA? (basically the same as player filed arbitration, but from the other party)

Pretty sure this just buys them negotiating time at the cost of leverage.

I thought only teams could walk if it was x% more than the QO

[flamesrule_kipper34]

Originally Posted by Icon

Doesn't this mean if an arbitrator decides on say a $9.5mil deal, since it was the team that filed for arbitration, Tkachuk's side would have to accept, and if he doesn't then he's a UFA? (basically the same as player filed arbitration, but from the other party)

Pretty sure this just buys them negotiating time at the cost of leverage.

It's binding, you cannot "walk away".

[Icon]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

Tkachuk has no choice but to accept.

Oh really? Weird.

Ok then nevermind.

99% chance of UFA next year then :P

[OptimalTates]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

My guess is the Flames weren't afraid of anything except for the potential of a one-year offer sheet just below the four 1st round picks threshold ($10.5MM)

Why would that be?

A team would be nuts to give up those assets for only one year of guaranteed Tkachuk, but even if they did offer him 10M, the Flames match and they’re pretty much at this exact spot where the arbitrator can award anywhere from 9M (minimum) to much more.

Except now if they go to arbitration it’s all about how much Tkachuk sucks because that’s how a team needs to approach arbitration and why everyone hates it.

[chedder]

Originally Posted by Aarongavey

I suspect, like the Sens did with Mark Stone, that the Flames will sign a one year contract with Tkachuk right before it goes to arbitration. Something like 9.75 million for one year, a win win for both parties. The Flames get Tkachuk signed and Tkachuk gets more money than he would have under the Qualifying Offer.

I don't see giving the player a one year deal as a win for the team. Just like if he accepted the qo, he walks right to free agency in a year. Team needs him signed long term or traded.

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by Icon

Doesn't this mean if an arbitrator decides on say a $9.5mil deal, since it was the team that filed for arbitration, Tkachuk's side would have to accept, and if he doesn't then he's a UFA? (basically the same as player filed arbitration, but from the other party)

Pretty sure this just buys them negotiating time at the cost of leverage.

Players cannot walk away from arbitration awards, only teams can if it is player initiated.