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Old 02-03-2022, 02:39 PM   #61
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Why are people suggesting we go after Max Domi? Are we in need of someone with a ridiculous cap hit that takes stupid penalties?
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Old 02-03-2022, 02:45 PM   #62
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The reason I am against all in is due to the uncertain future of the team. I am not big on losing Johnny for nothing and then having no 1st and possibly losing other key young players and prospects in a failed attempt to win it all.

I think this team is set at the key positions and it is just the second/third line and maybe third pair that need work
You mentioned losing Gaudreau for nothing. It would suck of course, but I don't think it has to end in a rebuild.

There are a lot of skilled forwards that are having a great season we might bring in with that cap-space. Kadri is playing at a 1.46PPG pace, then you have Bryan Rust 1.33PPG, Foresberg, Pavelski, Malkin, Burakovsky, Giroux, Hertl, Nichushkin, Palat, Trocheck, Smith are all intersting skilled forwards potentially hitting the market this off-season.

Gaudreau without a doubt has been the Flames MVP this season, but this team is capable of being a good team even without him. It depends a lot on who we will bring to fill in that void, and scoring more by committee. The Islanders lost Tavares and were just as good if not better in the following season.

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Old 02-03-2022, 02:47 PM   #63
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I'm still on the Eberle & Hot Dog Phil bandwagon and will be personally offended if they're dealt anywhere but Calgary
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Old 02-03-2022, 02:53 PM   #64
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Push some chips in, but not big ones. Supplement the forward ranks with a player or two. Do not trade the 2022 1st, Pelletier, Coronato, or Wolf.
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Old 02-03-2022, 02:54 PM   #65
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The reason I am against all in is due to the uncertain future of the team. I am not big on losing Johnny for nothing and then having no 1st and possibly losing other key young players and prospects in a failed attempt to win it all.

I think this team is set at the key positions and it is just the second/third line and maybe third pair that need work
The 1st this year is going to be between 18-25. When you trade Tkachuk and Lindholm, you can get some value back, and what you really don’t want to trade is a future lottery pick.

But they’re not finishing in the lottery this year.
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Old 02-03-2022, 02:55 PM   #66
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How about Giordano back and Eric Stall off his gold medal in Beijing. Couple of old guys for Sutter!
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Old 02-03-2022, 02:55 PM   #67
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You have to buy IMO. Odds are we aren't getting a top pick and we have some good prospects that could be available.

I'd like to see Valimaki and a first for a big physical goal scoring winger and hopefully the player has some term too.

This year could be a good year to buy as basically every non playoff team in the East is eliminated.

Already looking like a couple teams in the West are as well and a few that are very close.

There could be 10+ teams that are selling which is rare for the trade deadline.
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Old 02-03-2022, 02:57 PM   #68
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I think all-in this year.

In my opinion, this is the best performing team we've seen since Darryl was last here. Absolutely relentless. They come in waves and consistently play the right way. The team has clearly bought in. Career years from our top players. As we know from the past, Darryl's coaching style does have a shelf life. This is as good an opportunity as it gets.
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The Flames also currently sit #1 in the NHL with 104 goals against.

You finish top 5 in GF or GA, you can make the finals.
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Old 02-03-2022, 03:07 PM   #70
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All-in; now or never.

Ideally 1 forward with a bit more term at a reasonable AAV
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Old 02-03-2022, 03:09 PM   #71
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The Flames also currently sit #1 in the NHL with 104 goals against.

You finish top 5 in GF or GA, you can make the finals.
Agreed you just never know. Sometimes grinders step up in the playoffs and we could get elite goaltending so you just never know this team is pretty close and has a guy like Ritchie playing and doing nothing

Flames are a top end 5 on 5 team and on the PK. Pp is average but add a goal scoring RW and this team could be top 10 on the pp too.

They are 1 player away from being a threat and if you go for it it should help with Gaudreau and Tkachuk contracts. They will stay if this team gets out of the first round or 2.
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Old 02-03-2022, 03:17 PM   #72
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Let’s trade for Eichel….. oh wait too late
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Let’s trade for Eichel….. oh wait too late
Just when are people going to stop bringing up a no win situation? Curious?

How about postulating something that actually could happen? Fairly certain Jack isn’t the only top six Center in the league.
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And he doesn’t miss games.
Just wide open nets.
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Old 02-03-2022, 03:35 PM   #75
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Just when are people going to stop bringing up a no win situation? Curious?

How about postulating something that actually could happen? Fairly certain Jack isn’t the only top six Center in the league.
The Vegas situation is resolved yet either. They aren’t healthy and they have a lot to figure out. Let’s just beat Eichel in the playoffs
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Old 02-03-2022, 03:36 PM   #76
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I appreciated the Columbus comparable that was posted in another thread. They went all in at the deadline and then lost their core that following off-season. Like how can we add without 13/19 not under contract. Sorry but this team is horrible this year without them. Do you make that judgement call if your management and gamble on potential "What ifs"? Brad's inability to address this issue in the off-season has legitimately handcuffed this team in potentially gearing up for a run, this year and next.
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Old 02-03-2022, 03:43 PM   #77
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The Vegas situation is resolved yet either. They aren’t healthy and they have a lot to figure out. Let’s just beat Eichel in the playoffs
Certainly true, the chorus isn’t over, but it does lead me to the question again a top six Center.

Who is a young top six Center that can be traded for?
Hertl won’t play here of that I’m fairly certain.
Barzal I don’t think is going anywhere rumours.
Not interested in wheeler unless it’s PLD coming back, again not happening.

Christian Dvorak has come up but is he a huge improvement on what we have. I don’t know?
Kadri going into a huge long term deal, but it’s him sooo.

So who is a realistic target?
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Rentals are less costly to acquire than players with term. And you keep flexibility going into next season.

I hope the Flames pick up a rental or two up front.
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Old 02-03-2022, 03:47 PM   #79
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Not Kessel. Too inconsistent and just not enough of what Flames need.

Ya gotta give good to get good. Get good, please, and be happy to give good for it. No more depth guys. That's all I ask.
The Pens' second Cup, Kessel should have got the Conn Smythe. That's how good he was.

He just needs to be motivated, and it's easy to motivate players in the playoffs. Offer him a hot dog every goal he scores. Hot Dog Phil.
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Getting Max Domi would be funny because that would make 9 players/prospects from the 2013 first round that have been through the Flames organization at some point. Gotta catch'em all.
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