[News] World Juniors cancelled

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee

But don’t they have 3 goalies? Can’t a D slap on the pads in an emergency situation?

Again, that doesn’t seem valid enough to cancel the entire tournament.

I expect you’re going to hear about a bunch more cases. And what should the trigger point be for a forfeit? How many players? And if you end up with teams using defencemen for goalies or playing with less than a full roster, what kind of best on best tournament do you really have?

BTW, we are only assuming these cases are Omicron. Delta never went away.

[Heavy Jack]

Also to all the people who purchased ticket packages and single game tickets etc… the logistics to have refunds honoured are going to be nightmarish at best, feeling sorry to those who are caught up in trying to navigate that.

[Mr.Coffee]

I don’t even get why you need to forfeit any games at all though. One player positive. The rest negative. Play minus positive player.

It’s not even consistent with Alberta’s COVID rules (unless they’re changing in 30 minutes and that’s it?). Why do you even need to forfeit.

People are testing negative, they should be allowed to play.

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee

But don’t they have 3 goalies? Can’t a D slap on the pads in an emergency situation?

Again, that doesn’t seem valid enough to cancel the entire tournament.

Maybe the covid outbreaks would have just gone away. They have not really done that anywhere else, but maybe this time if they would have grinded through they would have gone away.

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Just a reminder…

https://twitter.com/user/status/1474417350480859140


… Edmonton is no good.

[Mr.Coffee]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

I expect you’re going to hear about a bunch more cases. And what should the trigger point be for a forfeit? How many players? And if you end up with teams using defencemen for goalies or playing with less than a full roster, what kind of best on best tournament do you really have?

BTW, we are only assuming these cases are Omicron. Delta never went away.

Well, certainly more than 1-2 players. I could see them doing this if it’s like say 5 or more maybe? But these are young kids and can log the ice time, let’s be honest. You can run 3 F lines, and 2 D pairs and be fine.

[Azure]

Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee

I don’t even get why you need to forfeit any games at all though. One player positive. The rest negative. Play minus positive player.

It’s not even consistent with Alberta’s COVID rules (unless they’re changing in 30 minutes and that’s it?). Why do you even need to forfeit.

People are testing negative, they should be allowed to play.

Because they probably knew that within a day or so everyone would be testing positive and they'd have to shut it all down.

It was dumb to not have the tournament in a bubble.

[Mr.Coffee]

Originally Posted by Aarongavey

Maybe the covid outbreaks would have just gone away. They have not really done that anywhere else, but maybe this time if they would have grinded through they would have gone away.

Until people are testing positive, this is canceling a tournament assuming people will, which is my problem with canceling at this point. Too early and not even giving people a chance to isolate and see what happens.

[Mr.Coffee]

Originally Posted by Azure

Because they probably knew that within a day or so everyone would be testing positive and they'd have to shut it all down.

It was dumb to not have the tournament in a bubble.

I guess that’s my issue. Canceling in anticipation something will happen before it does seems very silly.

[devo22]

Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee

But don’t they have 3 goalies? Can’t a D slap on the pads in an emergency situation?

Again, that doesn’t seem valid enough to cancel the entire tournament.

once it's seeping in, it's hard to not have more cases among the team. Just look at how quickly it spread among the Flames players.


Without a proper bubble and large enough squads for emergencies, it's hard to get through a tournament like this while Omicron slaps. 100 percent on the IIHF for failing to put the proper measures in place.

[Bingo]

Am I the only one getting sick of every decision by every league, political leader, business owner, school board etc being questioned.

These are tough decisions.

There is money involved so they don't want a bubble. Leading up the tournament Omnicron wasn't a thing and it looked like the NHL etc seasons were working.

It came on fast and hard, and they had Alberta change the rules on them a week before the tournament started.

People can always make better decisions, but pretty much any organization/leader is desperately trying to find a line between 100% economics and 100% health and they are bound to not get it right.

Just so tired of the know it alls with hindsight.

[Cecil Terwilliger]

Originally Posted by Azure

Because they probably knew that within a day or so everyone would be testing positive and they'd have to shut it all down.

It was dumb to not have the tournament in a bubble.

Nobody knew Omicron existed when the decision to bubble this tourney would have had to been made.

If we rewind two weeks, not a single league was suffering due to covid. Testing was obviously the right choice. There was no evidence to require a bubble.

If they’d have banned crowds months ago, which a bubble requires, people would be up in arms. People would have lost their minds at the “fear mongering” and chicken little attitude.

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee

I guess that’s my issue. Canceling in anticipation something will happen before it does seems very silly.

Things are canceled or delayed all the time in anticipation of something happening. I have been at sporting events where they have not started the second half because there is lightning in the area. Canceling the start of the second half before the lightning actually struck the stadium seemed quite silly but they did it.

[Lanny_McDonald]

It's the right move. It's a tough call, especially with the investments made, but with the big potential negative outcomes it is the right move.

[Lonestar]

I'm not sure if it's been said on previous pages, but I wonder if the "quick cancellation" of this tournament has something to do with all the flack they got for cancelling the women's tournaments outright.



It's not a good look to continue playing the men's games with a potential Covid outbreak looming while cancelling women's games a month down the road...

[Reggie Dunlop]

Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague

Just a reminder…

https://twitter.com/user/status/1474417350480859140


… Edmonton is no good.

Blame the Oilers!

[Weitz]

Wouldn’t be surprised to hear that there was an expectation of “level” of hotel the teams demanded which is why there wasn’t a whole hotel booked for them.

[DoubleK]

Originally Posted by Bingo

Am I the only one getting sick of every decision by every league, political leader, business owner, school board etc being questioned.

No, especially when it comes to the government.

Everyone and their dog was blasting Kenny et al for not acting fast enough in the summer and now some of those same people are blasting them from overreacting to Omicron.

Which is it?

[devo22]

Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger

If we rewind two weeks, not a single league was suffering due to covid. Testing was obviously the right choice. There was no evidence to require a bubble.

Omicron obviously came quickly, but let's not rewrite history. Two weeks ago, pretty much the whole Flames team was already in protocol and NHL games were postponed left and right.

hindsight is always 20/20 though, I get it. Easy for us to say that they should have done this and that instead. Just a frustrating situation all around.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Window of opportunity to be rescheduled for June/July