[Rumour] Incoming Flames shake up

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by Reggie Dunlop

Careful about what you wish for re: Gulutzan.

Dave Cameron could very well be the replacement. Can't recall any case offhand of an entire coaching staff being replaced mid-season. Often, an assistant assumes the role. And Cameron has HC experience.

I think they go with Huska before Cameron if they replace GG from within

[Tinordi]

Besides Evander Kane, which top line wingers do you think are actually available?

[midniteowl]

Originally Posted by Chingas

If it's not GG being shown the door, we will continue to see Brower and the like being deployed Incorrectly, while having Brodie and Hamonic continue to flounder. A lot of our issues are in game decisions and additions of new players that will likely be used incorrectly while the fourth line sees ice time with 4 minutes left in tied games.

This is really mind blowing, given our 4th line is one of the worst if not the worst in the league. Also, his insistence in rolling four lines drives me bonkers. There are times to roll 4 lines and there are times to avoid it. When you're leading more than 3 goals, yeah, roll them all you want. But if you are trailing in the game, you shorten your bench, meaning 4th line will sit and sit then may be take a shift.

There were so many times that the team just scored and have all the momentum, he throw the 4th line out and get hemmed in their own zone and lose all the momentum.

[IgiTang]

Originally Posted by bubbsy

Thank the heavens!

Just frigin bench Stajan and Brouwer (give his A to someone else), waive whoever, bring up mangiapane/hrivik/klimchuk. That would be a nice start!

If Backlund doesn’t get an A if Brouwer is jettisoned, I’m gonna be pretty pissed

[taxbuster]

Originally Posted by Corral

Welcome back to the Flames first line RW Jarome. Now please kick some @#$ around here.

Go Flames Go.

No. Not in game shape. Too old. Too much baggage.

[Inferno]

Originally Posted by ZedMan

This keeps coming up but there's no indication Darryl is still interested in coaching at all, let alone round 2 in Calgary.

It's from April but still shows he's not against coaching again. One thing with coming back to the Flames is he would be close to home.

https://www.nhl.com/news/former-king...ew/c-289131574

[Hackey]

I wouldn't mind Sutter but he seems to be a coach that burns out quick. I could see a bit of hesitation from management to go with him. Especially after the players turned on Hartley who has simimiarities. Tippett seems more familiar and might be better long term.

[midniteowl]

Originally Posted by Hackey

I wouldn't mind Sutter but he seems to be a coach that burns out quick. I could see a bit of hesitation from management to go with him. Especially after the players turned on Hartley who has simimiarities. Tippett seems more familiar and might be better long term.

If he can come in and win 2 cups in 5 years, I don't care if the players want him gone at the end of the 5th year.

[Jaydee]

Originally Posted by Tinordi

Besides Evander Kane, which top line wingers do you think are actually available?

Pacioretty

[MisterJoji]

Originally Posted by Reggie Dunlop

Careful about what you wish for re: Gulutzan.

Dave Cameron could very well be the replacement. Can't recall any case offhand of an entire coaching staff being replaced mid-season. Often, an assistant assumes the role. And Cameron has HC experience.

As mentioned above, hopefully it will be Huska as Gulutzan’s replacement if it’s an internal promotion but even if it was Cameron and he is smart enough to abandon lefty/righty D pairings, reduce or completely cut Stajan/Brouwer’s minutes and properly line match that’s still a massive improvement.

[David Struch]

Brodie + prospect(s)? for one of Simmonds, Hoffman, E Kane, Tatar, Eberle, Landeskog...

Gaudreau - Monahan - ______
Mangiapane - Backlund - Tkachuk
Bennett - Jankowski - Hathaway
Ferland - Lomberg - Jagr
Klimchuk

Giordano - Hamilton
Andersson - Hamonic
Kylington - Stone
Kulak

[dammage79]

So the play here should be for starters to take Gulutzan toys away. I.e Stajan and Brouwer.

I also think that Buffalo trade is coming up real quick. Say right after the Hawks game?

I don't think Gulutzan gets fired....yet. Treliving like I said is going to subtract some pieces and add some new ones and see if that works first.

A guy like Treliving is all about steps in a process. This'll be step one. Hopefully the next one doesn't take as long if things don't iron out. He has a tight timetable to turn this around now.

[N-E-B]

I don't doubt that Hamilton would fetch a bigger return than Brodie, but based on age and play this year I don't see any realistic scenario in which Hamilton is traded and Brodie is not.

[gargamel]

Originally Posted by Beninho

Would not lose any sleep over trading Brodie, so god damn soft the last 2 years and has been awful as the PP qb. He's in his prime right now so to think he's gonna grow out of this play is wishful thinking. Very good player when he is on but he's been completely off for some time now. Gets walked once a game

The fact that his poor play started precisely when Gulutzan took over makes it worth giving Brodie a shot to turn things around under our next coach, assuming that coaching change comes soon (as it should). Trading Brodie and watching him go back to the player he was with another team while the Flames continue to struggle for a few more months under GG would be a disaster.

[Flames Fan, Ph.D.]

I hope it's not a trade for the sake of trading to shake things up. My most traumatic Flames memories involve those types of trades.

[codynw]

Brouwer, Stajan and Bartkowski to the AHL
Call up Mangiapane, Klimchuk and Prout (press box most nights, still bad but not Bartkowski)
Fire Gulutzan and assistants
Hire Darryl Sutter and let him choose his own assistants

Gaudreau / Monahan / Ferland
Tkachuk / Backlund / Bennett
Mangiapane / Jankowski / Hathaway
Klimchuk / Lazar / Jagr

Giordano / Hamilton
Brodie / Hamonic
Kulak / Stone

Smith
Rittich

That looks like a solid team to me.

[midniteowl]

Originally Posted by gargamel

The fact that his poor play started precisely when Gulutzan took over makes it worth giving Brodie a shot to turn things around under our next coach, assuming that coaching change comes soon (as it should). Trading Brodie and watching him go back to the player he was with another team while the Flames continue to struggle for a few more months under GG would be a disaster.

Totally agree with this and it reminds me of back in the days when we had yet another GG as coach and his stubbornness cost us to trade a play making center named Marc Savard for peanuts. What pissed me off even more was that idiot GM fired the goddamn coach just months later.

I hope to god that history doesn't repeat itself.

[Hackey]

Originally Posted by midniteowl

If he can come in and win 2 cups in 5 years, I don't care if the players want him gone at the end of the 5th year.

Ya if it were just that easy. Hire Daryl and win a couple cups. Those Kings teams were stacked.

[Da_Chief]

Originally Posted by codynw

Brouwer, Stajan and Bartkowski to the AHL
Call up Mangiapane, Klimchuk and Prout (press box most nights, still bad but not Bartkowski)
Fire Gulutzan and assistants
Hire Darryl Sutter and let him choose his own assistants

Gaudreau / Monahan / Ferland
Tkachuk / Backlund / Bennett
Mangiapane / Jankowski / Hathaway
Klimchuk / Lazar / Jagr

Giordano / Hamilton
Brodie / Hamonic
Kulak / Stone

Smith
Rittich

That looks like a solid team to me.

So same brutal D, same struggling top line. Bennett slides up to replace Frolik, Mangiapane in Bennett's place and Klimchuk the new 4th liner.

Not much of a change from the current struggling mediocre team.

[FBI]

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