[PGT] Oilers 7, Flames 4 -- Nadir

[zukes]

Not sure what was worse??

1) Brian Elliott looking lost

2) suspect refereeing

3) Oilers handjob fest

[Toonage]

They took a gimme, bobbled it and then kicked it. Some obvious tweaks should be made for Friday when they can pay this one back.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by JiriHrdina

Having all 3 slow footed dmen is going to be a problem.
I think you can afford to have 1 or 2 of them, but not 3.

Hoping we see one, if not both, Kulak and Kevin next game.

Against McDavid and the Oilers would you not think Gulutzan would clue into that? Spectacularly bad night for the new coach.

[bubbsy]

Originally Posted by sun

Brutal game. Our men are too gross and wide.

Grade A post!

[Hockey_Ninja]

Well that sucked. With that being said we didn't get outplayed at all

[Henry Fool]

Tkachuk is soon going to have a target on his back. He didn't do a lot with the puck but I'm betting he wasn't invisible to the opponents. He plays pretty dirty.

Which isn't a negative necessarily of course.

[SOMBRI2]

I hope Friday is our Flames broadcast.

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[Plaedo]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

That was, quite simply, embarrassing. Hopefully it's the low point of the season.

Positives:
- Troy Brouwer
- Alex Chiasson
- Michael Frolik
- Matt Stajan
- Brodie was OK I guess
- Gaudreau, maybe?
- Special Teams

Negatives (bold especially so):
- Nick Grossmann
- Brian Elliott
- Dennis Wideman
- Sam Bennett
- Sean Monahan
- Glen Gulutzan's coaching style
- Officiating
- Dougie Hamilton
- Mark Giordano

More or Less Invisible
- Kris Versteeg
- Lance Bouma
- Matthew Tkachuk

Disagree - I liked what I saw from Versteeg, Tkachuk, Bennett. Gulutzan's PK has been encouraging, but the D pairings have been depressing. Gaudreau wasn't that impressive, he was normal Johnny, but had some disappointing give-aways that seemed to influence the momentum. Brouwer, in my mind, was slightly disappointing, aside from his break-away goal... More-or-less invisible, specifically in the first half of the game.

[Geeoff]

That game was hard to watch for a lot of reasons.

[Karl]

Originally Posted by Five-hole

Just hideous.

You could feel this coming from the inexplicable doddering around in the preseason. Why the effing eff can't this team figure out how to get ready for game 1?

Elliott was horrendous. Absolutely horrendous. I'm not worried going forward but incredibly disappointed right now.

So many of our best players were bad to awful. Tough to think of a Flame that played well. Backlund, Frolik, Engelland. Thought Tkachuk played well for an 18 year old rookie.

The rest? Hang your heads.

Add Chiasson & Stajan to the played well list for tonight.

[btimbit]

I'll try and focus on the positives.

Players I liked out there

-Versteeg
-Frolik
-Brouwer

Special teams looked good imo. Lots of chances on the PP, and the two shorty's of course.
Beat them on Faceoffs
41 Shots on goal.

I'm going to let tonight go, I did see things that the team can build off. Such a great start to the 2nd period totally ruined by the phantom penalty shot. I'll chalk the rest of the questionable reffing up to just the normal standard that we should all be used too. But the penalty shot sequence? Unbelievable, and completely changed the game.

Gaudreau looked like a player that missed training camp

But for the love of ####ing God, fix those D pairings

[TheScorpion]

Originally Posted by Gaudreauvertime

Elliott is not the answer.

Well, yeah, but only if you're asking "who will not be the subject of foolish overreaction after one poor game?".

[18YrOldSamBennett]

Originally Posted by JiriHrdina

Having all 3 slow footed dmen is going to be a problem.
I think you can afford to have 1 or 2 of them, but not 3.

Hoping we see one, if not both, Kulak and Kevin next game.

Both would be a nice change. They are much more mobile than Grossman, Engelland and Wideman, but it will probably just be one of them. They will likely keep Engelland in as Lucic deterrent.

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[Gaudreauvertime]

Originally Posted by bubbsy

I thought backlund, chiasson, brouwer , frolik, bennet, gaudreau , Stajan looked ok.

Defence was atrocious, all 3 pairings.

Elliott was hiller'esque.

Tkatchuk shouldn't be in the nhl yet, let alone the 2nd line.

Elliott looked like Hiller if he was playing without a blocker.

[Coach]

I only caught the 3rd, but everything just looked, out of order. So many pissed plays that could have ended in good chances.

The top two forwards both basically missing training camp doesn't help.

[Calgary4LIfe]

Well, those D-pairings might have made sense in theory, but boy did they not make sense in practice. Grossman is perfect - the guy you want to be sitting rather than a rookie. That's about it. I guess he did some things that were ok, but the first 2 goals were from a direct turnover by him.

Elliott seemed like Hiller out there tonight. I will chalk it up to first game nerves.

The entire team seemed disjointed.

I do like the PK a lot more - so much more pressure. I do like how they are putting more pressure on the puck carriers on zone entries, but then they just seemed lost at times too.

From top to bottom, this team didn't seem right. Lots of kinks to iron out by the looks of it. Better be worked out soon - every game counts so much.

[18YrOldSamBennett]

Originally Posted by CroFlames

I remember my first beer too Sam.

ROFL.

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[jg13]

Bad Johnny is still better than most of our forwards usually.

Agreed he needs to be miles better though

[CGY12]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

Grossman was at fault for the first goal and you guys dogpiled on him but i thought he was fine after that, a few hits and broke up rushes. That's the job of a 3rd pairing guy.

Wideman's on the first pairing, clueless. Hamilton is on the 2nd pairing invisible.

You should add Ferland to the list. What's he doing just skating around touching nobody. Freddie Hamilton can do that.

He was actually at fault for the first 2 goals. Horrible pass up the middle for the 1st. Jumps up in the play and instead of putting it on net, attempts to feed it under a sliding defender which leads to a 2 on 1 going the other way for the 2nd.

[The Fonz]

Originally Posted by AC

Giordano-Wideman
Brodie-Engelland
Grossmann-Hamilton

I can see the theory behind Gulutzan's D-pairings, and it makes me really nervous that he's the kind of coach that thought it would work.

We have 3 great D-men on this team. Pairing each of them with a plug does not spread the greatness... it spreads the suck. Suck is dominant gene.