07-13-2016, 02:45 PM
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#61
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by bax
45 points low end for a second line player?? How many second liners are putting up 50 points? I can't imagine it's that many
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85 forwards put up 50+ points last season. Not even enough to fill out 3 first line spots on 30 teams. 45 points would be a high end 2nd liner in terms of offensive production.
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07-13-2016, 07:03 PM
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#62
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Sunshine Coast
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My guess is Laine wins the Calder although he'll get strong competition from the Toronto media.
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07-13-2016, 08:05 PM
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#63
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Rocky Mt House
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bax
45 points low end for a second line player?? How many second liners are putting up 50 points? I can't imagine it's that many
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I put way too much time into looking into this.
Among playoff teams 45 points might be low end for a 2nd line center but great for either wing.
Teams having more than 6 forwards getting over even 30 points is uncommon (10 teams)
WSH and NYR have 8 forwards over 30. Dallas has only 6, but 7-9 are all at 29 points.
Four teams (incl TOR, VAN, MTL) have only 4 forwards breaking 30
Edit - Patrick Sharp 55, Huberdeau 59, and Reilly Smith 50 were the only "2nd line" wingers I could find over 50 points
*all stats from the 2015/16 season
Last edited by Yrebmi; 07-13-2016 at 08:13 PM.
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07-13-2016, 08:32 PM
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#64
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Scoring Winger
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82 - 0 for 164 pts.
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07-13-2016, 08:37 PM
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#65
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#1 Goaltender
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Yrebmi
I put way too much time into looking into this.
Among playoff teams 45 points might be low end for a 2nd line center but great for either wing.
Teams having more than 6 forwards getting over even 30 points is uncommon (10 teams)
WSH and NYR have 8 forwards over 30. Dallas has only 6, but 7-9 are all at 29 points.
Four teams (incl TOR, VAN, MTL) have only 4 forwards breaking 30
Edit - Patrick Sharp 55, Huberdeau 59, and Reilly Smith 50 were the only "2nd line" wingers I could find over 50 points
*all stats from the 2015/16 season
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Haha well thank you very much! I appreciate the research!
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07-13-2016, 08:50 PM
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Calgary
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I'll guess the Flames finish with less than 70 points, because if Tkachuk scores enough points to overcome the bias which will be Matthews in Toronto, it likely means both Monahan and Gaudreau didn't come to terms on a deal and missed a large portion of the season.
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07-13-2016, 10:55 PM
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#67
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by jlh2640
I think he will make the team, I would expect 50 points or so
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thats quite lofty expectetions. Eichal barely cracked 50 last year. I would expect 30-40 same as bennett.
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07-14-2016, 12:14 AM
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#68
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Scoring Winger
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I didn't know he was Finnish.
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07-14-2016, 12:15 AM
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#69
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Lifetime Suspension
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Over 9000.
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07-14-2016, 12:31 AM
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#70
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Scoring Winger
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That's a really big minus
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07-14-2016, 12:40 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Cleveland, OH (Grew up in Calgary)
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More points than the Oilers
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07-14-2016, 10:16 AM
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#72
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Park Hyatt Tokyo
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hockey_Ninja
More points than the Oilers
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Gee, don't set the bar so high.
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07-14-2016, 10:30 AM
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#73
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Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Boca Raton, FL
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Yrebmi
I put way too much time into looking into this.
Among playoff teams 45 points might be low end for a 2nd line center but great for either wing.
Teams having more than 6 forwards getting over even 30 points is uncommon (10 teams)
WSH and NYR have 8 forwards over 30. Dallas has only 6, but 7-9 are all at 29 points.
Four teams (incl TOR, VAN, MTL) have only 4 forwards breaking 30
Edit - Patrick Sharp 55, Huberdeau 59, and Reilly Smith 50 were the only "2nd line" wingers I could find over 50 points
*all stats from the 2015/16 season
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Just FYI, these two never played much together, if at all. Huberdeau is a 1st line winger and Smith is a 2nd line winger.
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07-14-2016, 10:33 AM
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#74
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Franchise Player
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It will be an interesting Calder race between Matthews and Laine. My bet is Matthews because Toronto.
It will be interesting to see if Tkachuk gets more than 9 games.
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07-14-2016, 11:42 AM
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#75
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CroFlames
It will be an interesting Calder race between Matthews and Laine. My bet is Matthews because Toronto.
It will be interesting to see if Tkachuk gets more than 9 games.
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Everyone always assumes the Calder is a race for the last year's draftees. But what about guys who were sent back for a year like Huberdeau. Guys who have played a fair bit both in the NHL or overseas but less than the minimum NHL games like Panarin, Stone or Malkin.
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07-14-2016, 11:44 AM
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#76
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GioforPM
Everyone always assumes the Calder is a race for the last year's draftees. But what about guys who were sent back for a year like Huberdeau. Guys who have played a fair bit both in the NHL or overseas but less than the minimum NHL games like Panarin, Stone or Malkin.
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You think any of those guys have a shot beating Laine or Matthews?
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07-14-2016, 12:13 PM
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#77
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Northern Crater
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CroFlames
It will be an interesting Calder race between Matthews and Laine. My bet is Matthews because Toronto.
It will be interesting to see if Tkachuk gets more than 9 games.
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Yep. Laine will need to beat Matthews by 10+ points to win the calder. Nylander too probably.
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