If Tkachuk wins the Calder how many points do the Flames Finnish with?

[RyZ]

Originally Posted by bax

45 points low end for a second line player?? How many second liners are putting up 50 points? I can't imagine it's that many

85 forwards put up 50+ points last season. Not even enough to fill out 3 first line spots on 30 teams. 45 points would be a high end 2nd liner in terms of offensive production.

[Vulcan]

My guess is Laine wins the Calder although he'll get strong competition from the Toronto media.

[Yrebmi]

Originally Posted by bax

45 points low end for a second line player?? How many second liners are putting up 50 points? I can't imagine it's that many

I put way too much time into looking into this.

Among playoff teams 45 points might be low end for a 2nd line center but great for either wing.
Teams having more than 6 forwards getting over even 30 points is uncommon (10 teams)
WSH and NYR have 8 forwards over 30. Dallas has only 6, but 7-9 are all at 29 points.
Four teams (incl TOR, VAN, MTL) have only 4 forwards breaking 30

Edit - Patrick Sharp 55, Huberdeau 59, and Reilly Smith 50 were the only "2nd line" wingers I could find over 50 points
*all stats from the 2015/16 season

[rhino]

82 - 0 for 164 pts.

[bax]

Originally Posted by Yrebmi

I put way too much time into looking into this.

Among playoff teams 45 points might be low end for a 2nd line center but great for either wing.
Teams having more than 6 forwards getting over even 30 points is uncommon (10 teams)
WSH and NYR have 8 forwards over 30. Dallas has only 6, but 7-9 are all at 29 points.
Four teams (incl TOR, VAN, MTL) have only 4 forwards breaking 30

Edit - Patrick Sharp 55, Huberdeau 59, and Reilly Smith 50 were the only "2nd line" wingers I could find over 50 points
*all stats from the 2015/16 season

Haha well thank you very much! I appreciate the research!

[monkeyman]

I'll guess the Flames finish with less than 70 points, because if Tkachuk scores enough points to overcome the bias which will be Matthews in Toronto, it likely means both Monahan and Gaudreau didn't come to terms on a deal and missed a large portion of the season.

[flamesforcup]

Originally Posted by jlh2640

I think he will make the team, I would expect 50 points or so

thats quite lofty expectetions. Eichal barely cracked 50 last year. I would expect 30-40 same as bennett.

[Willi Plett]

I didn't know he was Finnish.

[djsFlames]

Over 9000.

[Willi Plett]

That's a really big minus

[Hockey_Ninja]

More points than the Oilers

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by Hockey_Ninja

More points than the Oilers

Gee, don't set the bar so high.

[Cali Panthers Fan]

Originally Posted by Yrebmi

I put way too much time into looking into this.

Among playoff teams 45 points might be low end for a 2nd line center but great for either wing.
Teams having more than 6 forwards getting over even 30 points is uncommon (10 teams)
WSH and NYR have 8 forwards over 30. Dallas has only 6, but 7-9 are all at 29 points.
Four teams (incl TOR, VAN, MTL) have only 4 forwards breaking 30

Edit - Patrick Sharp 55, Huberdeau 59, and Reilly Smith 50 were the only "2nd line" wingers I could find over 50 points
*all stats from the 2015/16 season

Just FYI, these two never played much together, if at all. Huberdeau is a 1st line winger and Smith is a 2nd line winger.

[CroFlames]

It will be an interesting Calder race between Matthews and Laine. My bet is Matthews because Toronto.


It will be interesting to see if Tkachuk gets more than 9 games.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by CroFlames

It will be an interesting Calder race between Matthews and Laine. My bet is Matthews because Toronto.


It will be interesting to see if Tkachuk gets more than 9 games.

Everyone always assumes the Calder is a race for the last year's draftees. But what about guys who were sent back for a year like Huberdeau. Guys who have played a fair bit both in the NHL or overseas but less than the minimum NHL games like Panarin, Stone or Malkin.

[CroFlames]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Everyone always assumes the Calder is a race for the last year's draftees. But what about guys who were sent back for a year like Huberdeau. Guys who have played a fair bit both in the NHL or overseas but less than the minimum NHL games like Panarin, Stone or Malkin.

You think any of those guys have a shot beating Laine or Matthews?

[Fire of the Phoenix]

Originally Posted by CroFlames

It will be an interesting Calder race between Matthews and Laine. My bet is Matthews because Toronto.


It will be interesting to see if Tkachuk gets more than 9 games.

Yep. Laine will need to beat Matthews by 10+ points to win the calder. Nylander too probably.