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View Poll Results: Best prospect from the following list?
Andersson 6 1.39%
Bruce 0 0%
Carroll 0 0%
Culkin 1 0.23%
Dube 0 0%
Falkovsky 0 0%
Fox 0 0%
Gillies 168 38.98%
Hamilton 0 0%
Harrison 0 0%
Hathaway 0 0%
Hickey 34 7.89%
Jankowski 174 40.37%
Kanzig 0 0%
Karnaukhov 0 0%
Klimchuck 0 0%
Kulak 0 0%
Kylington 23 5.34%
Lindstrom 0 0%
Mangiapane 6 1.39%
Mattson 0 0%
McDonald 0 0%
Morrison 0 0%
Ollas Mattsson 2 0.46%
Parsons 0 0%
Phillips 0 0%
Poirier 0 0%
Pollock 0 0%
Pribyl 0 0%
Rafikov 0 0%
Rittich 0 0%
Schneider 0 0%
Shinkaruk 14 3.25%
Smith 1 0.23%
Tuulola 1 0.23%
Wotherspoon 1 0.23%
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Old 07-09-2016, 10:59 AM   #61
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Jankowski takes it for me.

I think he does have the attributes for.. gosh.. get ready for it.. a #1 center. Wait, what?

Just watch him play. He finds people. He can make anyone he plays with better. He has very good size, and is a puck-possession monster. I think his 'fall-back' is that of a 3rd line checking center ala Yelle, just because he is so talented at the FO dot, and at reading and anticipating plays.

I really do think there is a good chance he pushes Bennett to the wing, but just as good of a chance that he is deployed on the wing himself.

What is his weakness? What is this kid's kryptonite, so to speak? His only weakness is that he hasn't quite filled out yet, but I think he has reached the level of 'big enough'.

I thought he answered a lot of critics last season with coming to the AHL towards the end, and just showing that he might already be beyond that level. 6 points in 8 games, plus having earned Huska's trust in not only being deployed as a center, but being deployed in all important situations? Are you kidding me?

6'4", high IQ, great skater, can make impressive passes, has a good shot and seems like a guy who will instantly boot this team's puck possession numbers with his style of play (he controls the puck so well with his reach).

I think Weisbrod (I hate to say this) was right - or at least, he was half-right. Weisbrod said that Jankowski was the next Nieuwendyk. I think that is only partly true. Some of you are probably too young to remember one of Jimmy Carson's (who is that, gramps?) skits on the Tonight Show was Carnac the Magnificent. He would hold an envelope to his head, give the 'answer', and then proceed to open the envelope and read the statement/question.



Carnac the Magnificent: Mark Jankowski

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That is who I think of when I try to come up with the best example of a former Flames center. A Joe Nieuwendyk with his vision and passing ability, ability to protect and shield the puck and make smart plays, hand/eye coordination, but probably a nudge lower on the total offensive acumen that Nieuwendyk had. However, he has Otto's size, faceoff skills and defensive acumen. Just not as hard as Otto was.

I think that is a really key piece for the Flames to have, and will become a very important player for them. I don't think he will displace Backlund. I think what is needed in regards to the Flames and Jankowski is for him to be part of the top 6. Either alongside Gaudreau and Monahan, or alongside Tkachuk and Bennett, or in the middle of Tkachuk and Bennett.

I really do think he will be that important to the :Flames.

I like Gillie, but I am not completely sold on him being the next great goalie for Calgary. I am more than comfortable with the notion that the Flames have their goalie of the future between him, MacDonald, Schneider (who is soooo underrated and almost an afterthought), and Parsons. Rittich could even be part of that solution, as I won't write him off while getting acclimatized to the smaller ice with all the different angles. I think Gillies headlines that list for sure. I just can't commit myself on Gillies.

Kylington will probably be the next pick for me. A ridiculous package of skill and talent. He has the vision to make extraordinary plays from the backend - he can creatively set up his forwards and make those passes connect on the tape no matter the pace of the game. He can skate with the puck at TJ Brodie's level it seems at his young age - his skating and puck skills are that ridiculous.

What is really ridiculous to me is when I think of trying to defend against him at the NHL level. If the opposing player tries to defend against Kylington, he has to be ready for Kylington to make an expert pass on someone's stick, or try and cheat by hanging back a little bit so that Kylington doesn't blow past him - but play the pass or play safe by giving too much respect for Kylington's skating ability, and Kylington will just pound that puck down the other team's throats thanks to his much harder than I ever expected slapper.

I think he is a full step ahead of Andersson, even without Andersson's conditioning issues. I think Kylington is quickly gaining ground on Andersson defensively - might have already caught him. He was playing top pairing on the Heat for much of the season as an 18 year old. Let that sink in. Brian Burke - who favors the 'big heavy truculent kids' loves Kylington and thinks he will be a player.

Kylington to me as top pairing upside easily. I am not sure why I have Jankowski ahead - maybe because when you have such a big center being able to do everything so well, it really helps a team win. I find the gap between these two so close. I think he is ahead of both Andersson and Hickey.
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Old 07-09-2016, 10:59 AM   #62
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Gillies was injured all of last season. Not sure how he can possibly be our #2 prospect now considering he hasn't had much development.

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Old 07-09-2016, 11:04 AM   #63
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The votes are really close. Jankowski got my vote this round.
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Old 07-09-2016, 11:07 AM   #64
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I voted for Gillies but it wasn't a slam dunk pick with his injury concerns.
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Old 07-09-2016, 11:11 AM   #65
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Voted Gillies as well, hope he has a good season this year.
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Old 07-09-2016, 11:13 AM   #66
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I voted Jankowski over Gillies as IMO Jankowski has a higher probability to be an NHL regular at present time and I am not a person that gets caught up with the hype of goaltending prospects (especially Flames ones) as it's the hardest position to pin down. Gillies clearly needs to have a full and very solid AHL season next year to make me a believer as all we have to date is his college resume.
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Old 07-09-2016, 11:15 AM   #67
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Went with Gillies - the next pick is really interesting for me. Can't decide between Jankowski/Kylington/Hickey - leaning toward Kylington but not 100% there yet
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Old 07-09-2016, 11:30 AM   #68
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I went Jankowski but it was a very tough call. That lost year for Gillies concerns me a little bit, and goalies are much harder to project.
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Old 07-09-2016, 11:33 AM   #69
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I've been a big Jankowski supporter the whole time and he finally had his breakout year last year followed by an impressive pro debut. People in the organization saying he was the best forward for Stockton as a rookie in a couple games. He has the size, skating and skill to be a big top two line centre. Big top two line centres are worth more than goalies in general. And goalies are harder to project and take longer to develop.

Janko for me.
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Old 07-09-2016, 11:36 AM   #70
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Man, I hope you guys are right about Gillies. How great would that be?

Flames have drafted one (1) "elite" goalie and that was before most of us were even born. I mean, they've only drafted a couple other decent goalies - Kidd and Craig Anderson. Who am I missing?
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Old 07-09-2016, 11:43 AM   #71
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Voted Kylington. I looked at it as who has the potential to be a star in this league. Obviously you never know but his skills at his age are through the roof. If he was a forward he'd be making the team. Would have voted Gillies if he wasn't rehabbing. Love the way Jankowski is progressing too.
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Injuries are too big of a red flag with Gillies IMO. Voted for Hickey
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Went with Gillies. Could be our next star goalie or is it should be. I'm pretty confident his operation is just a small setback as it's become a fairly usual fix for goalies. As an aside McDonald, Schneider, and Parsons all look promising as well.

As for Jankowski, we've been waiting for him far too long. He shows well at this camp every year that shows he has some tools but come game time he becomes mostly invisible like in the scrimmage. I'm not saying he isn't a good prospect, I have him ranked 4th as he's gotten bigger and started to produce a bit like a first rounder with his experience should and that's about ten spots higher than I've previously ranked him.
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My next tier after Tkachuk is Jankowski, Gillies, and Andersson. Until Gillies shows his hip injury is in the past, and Andersson shows that he can dedicate himself to pro conditioning and lifestyle, they'll have asterisks for me. So Jankowski it is. Other two go next for me.

6'4" skilled two-way center playing at 205 already, should be 215 or 220 when fully filled out. Proven winner. Hard not to like him.
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Going to go with Hickey.
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I chose Gillis because of his potential to be a dominant player in a very important position.

All of this is just hope that any of these players do anything in the NHL but with his skill level, he has a chance to be great.

Potential and position were the biggest factors in my decision.
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Jankowski takes it for me.

I think he does have the attributes for.. gosh.. get ready for it.. a #1 center. Wait, what?

Just watch him play. He finds people. He can make anyone he plays with better. He has very good size, and is a puck-possession monster. I think his 'fall-back' is that of a 3rd line checking center ala Yelle, just because he is so talented at the FO dot, and at reading and anticipating plays.

I really do think there is a good chance he pushes Bennett to the wing, but just as good of a chance that he is deployed on the wing himself.

What is his weakness? What is this kid's kryptonite, so to speak? His only weakness is that he hasn't quite filled out yet, but I think he has reached the level of 'big enough'.

I thought he answered a lot of critics last season with coming to the AHL towards the end, and just showing that he might already be beyond that level. 6 points in 8 games, plus having earned Huska's trust in not only being deployed as a center, but being deployed in all important situations? Are you kidding me?

6'4", high IQ, great skater, can make impressive passes, has a good shot and seems like a guy who will instantly boot this team's puck possession numbers with his style of play (he controls the puck so well with his reach).

I think Weisbrod (I hate to say this) was right - or at least, he was half-right. Weisbrod said that Jankowski was the next Nieuwendyk. I think that is only partly true. Some of you are probably too young to remember one of Jimmy Carson's (who is that, gramps?) skits on the Tonight Show was Carnac the Magnificent. He would hold an envelope to his head, give the 'answer', and then proceed to open the envelope and read the statement/question.



Carnac the Magnificent: Mark Jankowski

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Had a baby with



That is who I think of when I try to come up with the best example of a former Flames center. A Joe Nieuwendyk with his vision and passing ability, ability to protect and shield the puck and make smart plays, hand/eye coordination, but probably a nudge lower on the total offensive acumen that Nieuwendyk had. However, he has Otto's size, faceoff skills and defensive acumen. Just not as hard as Otto was.

I think that is a really key piece for the Flames to have, and will become a very important player for them. I don't think he will displace Backlund. I think what is needed in regards to the Flames and Jankowski is for him to be part of the top 6. Either alongside Gaudreau and Monahan, or alongside Tkachuk and Bennett, or in the middle of Tkachuk and Bennett.

I really do think he will be that important to the :Flames.

I like Gillie, but I am not completely sold on him being the next great goalie for Calgary. I am more than comfortable with the notion that the Flames have their goalie of the future between him, MacDonald, Schneider (who is soooo underrated and almost an afterthought), and Parsons. Rittich could even be part of that solution, as I won't write him off while getting acclimatized to the smaller ice with all the different angles. I think Gillies headlines that list for sure. I just can't commit myself on Gillies.

Kylington will probably be the next pick for me. A ridiculous package of skill and talent. He has the vision to make extraordinary plays from the backend - he can creatively set up his forwards and make those passes connect on the tape no matter the pace of the game. He can skate with the puck at TJ Brodie's level it seems at his young age - his skating and puck skills are that ridiculous.

What is really ridiculous to me is when I think of trying to defend against him at the NHL level. If the opposing player tries to defend against Kylington, he has to be ready for Kylington to make an expert pass on someone's stick, or try and cheat by hanging back a little bit so that Kylington doesn't blow past him - but play the pass or play safe by giving too much respect for Kylington's skating ability, and Kylington will just pound that puck down the other team's throats thanks to his much harder than I ever expected slapper.

I think he is a full step ahead of Andersson, even without Andersson's conditioning issues. I think Kylington is quickly gaining ground on Andersson defensively - might have already caught him. He was playing top pairing on the Heat for much of the season as an 18 year old. Let that sink in. Brian Burke - who favors the 'big heavy truculent kids' loves Kylington and thinks he will be a player.

Kylington to me as top pairing upside easily. I am not sure why I have Jankowski ahead - maybe because when you have such a big center being able to do everything so well, it really helps a team win. I find the gap between these two so close. I think he is ahead of both Andersson and Hickey.
Well written and pretty good evaluation except for..."a NUDGE lower on the total offensive acumen that Nieuwebdyk had".

Cmon, Joe was the second fastest player to a 100 goals EVER.

I do not believe Jankowski will ever produce offensively even close to what Joe did in his career.
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I've been a big Jankowski supporter the whole time and he finally had his breakout year last year followed by an impressive pro debut. People in the organization saying he was the best forward for Stockton as a rookie in a couple games. He has the size, skating and skill to be a big top two line centre. Big top two line centres are worth more than goalies in general. And goalies are harder to project and take longer to develop.

Janko for me
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Not in this case, both Jankowski and Gillies were taken in the same draft and except for the injury, Gillies is ahead of Jankowski.
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I also took Gillies, but it was by no means an easy choice between him and Jankowski.

I think it is very encouraging that with how polarizing Jankowski has been with this fanbase since he was drafted he is one of the top two or three prospects for the Flames in his first professional season. This is starting to look like a solid draft pick, and could very shortly be considered a steal.
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Really like both Gillies and Jankowski. In the three seasons they played together, don't think there is much argument that Gillies was the best player on those Friar teams, thus Jon ahead of Mark due to side by side comparison

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