[Trade] Blackhawks trade Bickell and Teravainen to Canes for 50th OA and 2017 3rd

[EldrickOnIce]

Originally Posted by New Era

I have a question on these stats though. What impact does strength of team and style of play have on these numbers? I continue to look at these andnaces stats things and they don't pass the eye or smell test any more than the RGI. How many of these starts are dependent more on the style of the line than the individual or the role in general?

This is where corsi% relative may take that into account - and they are pretty much even (and meh) there.

[thefoss1957]

'Hawks just signed Richard Panik, RFA, to a 1-year contract...no details

[jeffman]

Originally Posted by ricardodw

Carolina and the Flames started the rebuild at the same time

They were both bad teams that year when the Canes picked Lindholm ahead of Monahan.

After taking on Bickell's contract the Canes have 25M cap left with only Victor Rask as an important unsigned RFA and a goalie to replace Cam Ward on a team that was 9 pts better in the standing than the Flames.

The Flames need to sign Carolina's cap manager.

They havent made the playoffs in about 8 years, but they manage their cap beautifully

[DJones]

Originally Posted by jeffman

They havent made the playoffs in about 8 years, but they manage their cap beautifully

The trick is to have only 13 guys signed for next year.

[dino7c]

Not to mention the Canes are losing money hand over first...they are literally living off an IOU to the league

[Coach]

Originally Posted by thefoss1957

'Hawks just signed Richard Panik, RFA, to a 1-year contract...no details

Dick Panik!

[thefoss1957]

Originally Posted by MattyC

Dick Panik!

Sounds like that could be a Ron Jeremy film title!

[thefoss1957]

One of the Chi radio stations (Dave Kaplan AM1000 (ESPN)) is saying that the 'Hawks retain 50% of Bickell's salary in this deal...I hope not, because if THAT is true, then throwing in TT to take 1/2 of Bickell's salary is MASSIVE overpayment.

[Coach]

Originally Posted by thefoss1957

One of the Chi radio stations (Dave Kaplan AM1000 (ESPN)) is saying that the 'Hawks retain 50% of Bickell's salary in this deal...I hope not, because if THAT is true, then throwing in TT to take 1/2 of Bickell's salary is MASSIVE overpayment.

Yeah, that'd be brutal.

[Geeoff]

I like this trade for the Hawks. Get rid of a terrible contract AND get a couple of picks.

[Stay Golden]

Nice cap move. Both teams win. Seems like every couple of years the Hawks are involved with these type of moves.The players they cap move they replace through their system. Smart management, smart drafting.

[red sky]

Originally Posted by Stay Golden

Nice cap move. Both teams win. Seems like every couple of years the Hawks are involved with these type of moves.The players they cap move they replace through their system. Smart management, smart drafting.

Not giving Bickell $4mm a year for 4 years after pulling a Pasani is even smarter management. Yes, hindsight is 20/20 but every year there is that playoff performer who gets hot and subsequently overpaid. My 'money' was on Bickell that year.

[Fire of the Phoenix]

Originally Posted by red sky

Not giving Bickell $4mm a year for 4 years after pulling a Pasani is even smarter management. Yes, hindsight is 20/20 but every year there is that playoff performer who gets hot and subsequently overpaid. My 'money' was on Bickell that year.

No kidding. Bowman is a great GM but I find it funny how much credit he gets for getting himself out of messes he created. Teravainen is a good, young player he just gave a way for some scratch and wins. Sharp was given away too. He's pretty lucky he has an endless stream of UFA prospects falling into his lap every year to balance this stuff out.

[Alberta_Beef]

Originally Posted by thefoss1957

One of the Chi radio stations (Dave Kaplan AM1000 (ESPN)) is saying that the 'Hawks retain 50% of Bickell's salary in this deal...I hope not, because if THAT is true, then throwing in TT to take 1/2 of Bickell's salary is MASSIVE overpayment.

this makes alot more sense to me, because previously it was like they paid for TT and took Bickell for free which makes little sense for the 'Canes, they should be paid to take Bickell and any part of that abortion of a contract.

[Rick M.]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

Seems like a good trade for Carolina, but TT hasn't really progressed as a lot had expected.

What a dumb contract Bickell has though

TT really seems to be a perimeter player and Panarin made him dispensable.

[thefoss1957]

http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2016/06/...om-blackhawks/

What's with the smear rumors when a guy is shipped OOT? I thought only Boston did stuff like this?

Personally, I think this is garbage, a young man wanting to spend his off time at his HOME a continent away, shouldn't be pilloried for it.

[JJ1532]

Originally Posted by thefoss1957

http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2016/06/...om-blackhawks/

What's with the smear rumors when a guy is shipped OOT? I thought only Boston did stuff like this?

Personally, I think this is garbage, a young man wanting to spend his off time at his HOME a continent away, shouldn't be pilloried for it.

Damn right its garbage.

Which Blackhawks? No player should care where their team mates train in the summer and maybe the Hawks management wanted him in North America so they could keep an eye on him, but he has every right to want to train back in Europe. If they really were bothered by where he spends his summer, he's probably better off out of there.

[dash_pinched]

Vancouver had a similar smear campaign when they traded McCann to Florida for Gudbranson (call him entitled and not well liked in the dressing room).

[JJ1532]

Originally Posted by dash_pinched

Vancouver had a similar smear campaign when they traded McCann to Florida for Gudbranson (call him entitled and not well liked in the dressing room).

Same was said about Hamilton in Boston. Amazing how often it happens.