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Old 05-05-2016, 01:20 PM   #61
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I have to think that Treliving is much too smart to hire Randy Carlyle.
I really think Burke is the only reason that Carlyle is getting tied to the Flames. Will they interview him? Probably, if Treliving's obsessiveness with information on the trade market is any indication I think they will interview as many guys as possible. However, I think the media, especially Eastern media, tend to think Burke is the guy making the calls not Treliving, thus Carlyle must be a candidate cause Burke likes(/ed) him.
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Old 05-05-2016, 01:25 PM   #62
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I wouldn't be surprised if Treliving took some heat and that was the catalyst for letting Hartley go, but I agree that they wouldn't have fired him yet. Keeping Hartley around at the beginning of his tenure gave him some additional rope as he can now play "the coach card".

I figure he has at least 2 seasons of grace left before firing him becomes an option. The first season of his own coach will be a mulligan, but the following season, the team will need to show improvement or he might be in trouble.
Every GM takes some heat but so far I'd say Treliving is doing a bang up job. He knows his stuff, is respected around the league, works hard, and has made some great deals. He's not in Cliff Fletcher's league yet but he's on the right path.
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I was never going to reveal this before because I didn't see the need to but Mike Yeo would be weird because he is my 2nd cousin. My real last name is also Yeo. Despite the relation I am not his biggest fan as a coach and to have him coach the Flames...weird.
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Old 05-05-2016, 01:34 PM   #64
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I actually think Renaud said that he believes Bob was let go now instead of 3 weeks ago purely because of Boudreau. Said it wouldn't make sense to allow Bob to have an end season press conference if he wasn't the coach for next year. He said it wasn't right to do it like this.

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Old 05-05-2016, 01:42 PM   #65
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I actually think Renaud said that he believes Bob was let go now instead of 3 weeks ago purely because of Boudreau. Said it would make sense to allow Bob to have an end season press conference if he wasn't the coach for next year. He said it wasn't right to do it like this.
Thanks, I missed that part of it. Yeah, it doesn't make much sense to let the guy hold a presser if the plan is to let him go. Clearly they weren't thrilled with Hartley but were likely willing to let him ride it out until Boudreau was let go. I really think in this case, where there's smoke there's fire. (no dumb Flames pun intended)
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Old 05-05-2016, 02:03 PM   #66
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I actually think Renaud said that he believes Bob was let go now instead of 3 weeks ago purely because of Boudreau. Said it wouldn't make sense to allow Bob to have an end season press conference if he wasn't the coach for next year. He said it wasn't right to do it like this.
Renaud is also friends with Hartley in real life. The hockey establishment and media in Quebec is essentially a huge old boys' club, and they're always looking out for one another (case in point: the media began trashing Subban publicly after Habs fans started calling for Therrien's, and to a lesser extent Bergevin's, head).
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What an odd analogy. Speaking from personal experience?
Heh.

It's an odd analogy because it was an odd statement (by Eklund ... who likely made it up).
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Old 05-05-2016, 02:23 PM   #68
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I figured they let the dust settle on the season, finish the exit interviews, and do a clear and patient retrospective on the season before making a decision. Doing it within days of the season ending wouldn't have given them much time for that process, IMO.
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To me, Brad is doing all the major things correctly.

I don't like giving up a 3rd for Bollig, or using a 2nd round pick on Hunter Smith, etc., but he's hit everything else out of the park. The biggest "mistake" he made was not upgrading Ramo and Hiller (and to me, considering we got average goaltending from them last year and Hiller had been an above average goalie for most of his career, that's on the players more than anything). The Flames weren't going to be contenders this year regardless of who was in net.

If the Flames would be so short-sighted to fire an extremely competent, intelligent, and modern thinking manager like Treliving, it would be devastating. The results will come, and I hope Burke/owners have the patience to realize that.

I've never been more confident in a Flames' manager. I know he's not going to get fleeced in trades. I trust his judgment with our high draft picks.
I don't think it's even reasonable to hold goaltending this year over his head. We knew he was in on Talbot. I'm sure he was in on Martin Jones as well. When Hamilton came available, Brad pivoted and got the best player. Jones looks like a stud, but Treliving only had one 1st to work with. I'm sure there are those out there who would have preferred we get Jones instead of Hamilton, but I don't believe that would have been prudent.

Treliving rolled the dice that Hartley would be able to replicate the goalie whispering of the previous year. Hiller should have been waived out of training camp and they should have gone with Ramo/Ortio. Hindsight. This cannot be repeated enough: without Karri Ramo this team drafts Auston Matthews.
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I don't think it's even reasonable to hold goaltending this year over his head. We knew he was in on Talbot. I'm sure he was in on Martin Jones as well. When Hamilton came available, Brad pivoted and got the best player. Jones looks like a stud, but Treliving only had one 1st to work with. I'm sure there are those out there who would have preferred we get Jones instead of Hamilton, but I don't believe that would have been prudent.

Treliving rolled the dice that Hartley would be able to replicate the goalie whispering of the previous year. Hiller should have been waived out of training camp and they should have gone with Ramo/Ortio. Hindsight. This cannot be repeated enough: without Karri Ramo this team drafts Auston Matthews.
6-5 right shooting D-men that are 21 and put up 40+ points never come up in trade, while every year there is always a goalie or 5 that are out there. Tree did the right thing for sure.
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Duha on the Fan this morning mentioned Playfair, Lowry and Ralph Krueger as possible "darkhorse" options that aren't being discussed already.
I thought of Krueger a couple of days ago but didn't want to mention it. I know Oilers fans that blame the no goodedness on revolving coaches and I always mention they should have stuck with Krueger.
I think he is with a soccer team now
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What style of game did Carlye coach, I can't really remember.
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What style of game did Carlye coach, I can't really remember.
A losing one, mostly.
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What style of game did Carlye coach, I can't really remember.
A losing one.
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What style of game did Carlye coach, I can't really remember.
Pretty much the same as Hartley's, so it makes zero sense to hire him.
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Probably just blowing smoke than. Everyone knows what Brad wants from his coach now.
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It's Boudreau. I think he'll finish the week entertaining offers but at the end of the day, the Flames win out. The youth of the core and the fact that really goaltending is the greatest need to address, Boudreau will get the assurances needed that it will be addressed and take the job.

I don't know exactly what Boudreaus Schtick is in pre-game interviews but he has always been very complimentary and positive when talking about CGY. So maybe he already has a natural preference towards the Flames .
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I'm convinced Boudreau will choose us because the hockey gods owe us a little for dropping us down in the draft despite our attempts to NOT tank the season.
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A losing one.
Well...

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It's Boudreau, and I don't care what any member of the media thinks.
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