The Next Flames Coach | News & Rumors

[SuperMatt18]

Ottawa would also have the pro of being in the easier conference.

Western conference is a bloodbath in the playoffs and Boudreau would be very aware of that.

[JohnnyT]

Originally Posted by Itse

The point of this thread is to collect news and rumours. It'd be nice if people kept other commentary in the other threads.

Originally Posted by bucksmasher

Seriously??? If you can't comment on news and rumours what's the point. Just lock the thread and update your original post. Or get a life, that might work too.

Here's what my goal for this thread is; If you want to talk about Bob Hartley and his time as a flame, you can go to the Hartley thread; if you want talk about who you want as coach and why you can go to the Who Do You Want as the Next Head Coach thread; this thread is a place to collect all the latest news and rumours and discussion on these news and rumours. Its a discussion board, we want to have discussion. Now of course there is going to be some blending of topics as happens with all forum topics, but my goal is to keep the original post updated with the latest news posted in this thread (as long as it is from a reputable source).

I think the post earlier about the pro's & con's of the teams looking to hire Boudreau is a great example of the type of discussion this thread should have.

[Ashasx]

Originally Posted by IceMan xMVPx

Mods, feel free to PM me if you want to know the source of the information.

Yesterday I ran into a former NHLer with strong ties to Calgary and the organization (no not Rhett Warrener).

He strongly believes that Randy Carlyle will be the next coach of the Flames. He indicated that during the player meetings, Monahan and Gaudreau were the two biggest advocates of getting Hartley fired. As many have said here, the players were getting tired with Bob and wanted a change.

Also, apparently the Flames had already decided to fire Hartley 10 days prior to the news breaking on Tuesday, hence the Boudreau rumors.

He was super nice and a great guy to chat with.

I'm sure Carlyle is a strong possibility but I hope in the end, the Flames can get Boudreau. We'll see what happens.

If Gaudreau and Monahan were the reason why Hartley was fired as you claim, then it makes absolutely no sense why Treliving would bring in Carlyle.

[Street Pharmacist]

Hiring Carlyle would make me cry

[Bend it like Bourgeois]

Originally Posted by IceMan xMVPx

Mods, feel free to PM me if you want to know the source of the information.

Yesterday I ran into a former NHLer with strong ties to Calgary and the organization (no not Rhett Warrener).

He strongly believes that Randy Carlyle will be the next coach of the Flames. He indicated that during the player meetings, Monahan and Gaudreau were the two biggest advocates of getting Hartley fired. As many have said here, the players were getting tired with Bob and wanted a change.

Also, apparently the Flames had already decided to fire Hartley 10 days prior to the news breaking on Tuesday, hence the Boudreau rumors.

He was super nice and a great guy to chat with.

I'm sure Carlyle is a strong possibility but I hope in the end, the Flames can get Boudreau. We'll see what happens.

Re gaudreau and Monahan I wouldn't buy that for a minute - what you heard, not whether you heard it. There are always water cooler rumours in any organization. A good rule of thumb is anyone talking about it publicly is not close enough to it to actually know anything.

[Toonage]

Renaud Lavoie coming up on the Fan960 to discuss the coaching vacancy.

- surprised Hartley was fired, joking that the Flames Twitter may have been hacked
- in talking with Hartley prior to the firing never thought there were issues
- suggesting Treliving is under pressure to find (all the) solutions
- sounds a little bitter on Bob's behalf (my opinion)
- doesn't feel the decision had anything to do with Boudreau's availability
- brings up Randy Carlyle, again citing the Burke relationship
- fully expects Boudreau & Yeo to be in the mix here and in Anaheim, suggests its all the same names for each job
- suggests they need a goaltender more than anything (not coaching related, but you know)
- thats it for coach talk

[Ashasx]

Renaud Laovie says he thinks Hartley was fired because Treliving was feeling pressure as he himself needs a new contract.

Sounded like pure speculation. Sounds like he is completely sour because he's friends with Hartley.

[dammage79]

Yeah how is Trelivings job at stake this early on in his tenure? He's done some incredible things since coming here.

[SuperMatt18]

Yeah I don't see it either.

Only been 2 years for Treliving and usually GMs at least get one of their own coaching hires before they would even think of being fired.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

Renaud Laovie says he thinks Hartley was fired because Treliving was feeling pressure as he himself needs a new contract.

Sounded like pure speculation. Sounds like he is completely sour because he's friends with Hartley.

Yeah that's garbage. When is the last time a GM got fired and never even got to hire his own head coach?

[Ashasx]

I would have thought based on fan sentiment that Treliving would be very secure in his position.

[CaptainYooh]

Originally Posted by IceMan xMVPx

...
Yesterday I ran into a former NHLer with strong ties to Calgary and the organization (no not Rhett Warrener).

He strongly believes that Randy Carlyle will be the next coach of the Flames. ...

Same here.

[Vinny01]

Treliving took over a team that was entering their second draft and full season of a long overdue rebuild. The team performed extremely well in his first year and shocked the world to make the playoffs and won a round.

On top of that Treliving went ahead and traded what was a top 6 winger in Calgary for many years in Glencross for above market value (he even had a NMC) while the team was in the midst of a playoff race.

He goes into the summer and pulls of a massive blockbuster for a 21 year old 6'5 RHD coming off a strong year offensively and fancy stats. He then gets one of the more coveted free agent wingers on the market to sign a pretty fair UFA deal. Frolik was only 27 at the time.

The area he screwed up was the goaltending and he has owned that. Ramo was retained because Bob liked him more than Hiller. He tried to move Hiller with no luck. Ortio was a waiver risk so they ran with 3 goalies.

During this season he gets a pretty solid return for Hudler who looked like a shadow of his former self. He then pulls off a great trade with Dallas to get the coveted pick, prospect, player for Russell.

Treliving has a big summer but in my opinion his job is very secure right now and rightfully so

[Vulcan]

Even the goalie situation, I don't think you can completely blame Treliving for. We had the same two goalies who played pretty well in leading us to the playoffs plus a promising goalie that looked ready. That they all drove into the ditch can't be blamed on Brad.

[Badgers Nose]

After the Pribyl signing i was worried the next minth would be boring. Thanks BT!

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Yeah that's garbage. When is the last time a GM got fired and never even got to hire his own head coach?

I wouldn't be surprised if Treliving took some heat and that was the catalyst for letting Hartley go, but I agree that they wouldn't have fired him yet. Keeping Hartley around at the beginning of his tenure gave him some additional rope as he can now play "the coach card".

I figure he has at least 2 seasons of grace left before firing him becomes an option. The first season of his own coach will be a mulligan, but the following season, the team will need to show improvement or he might be in trouble.

[Badgers Nose]

Originally Posted by Vulcan

Even the goalie situation, I don't think you can completely blame Treliving for. We had the same two goalies who played pretty well in leading us to the playoffs plus a promising goalie that looked ready. That they all drove into the ditch can't be blamed on Brad.

Exactly. Whomever the GM or coach, players still gotta play.

After last year it was hard to imagine all three goalies would suck that much this year. That was historic fail.

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

I have to think that Treliving is much too smart to hire Randy Carlyle.

[Ashasx]

To me, Brad is doing all the major things correctly.

I don't like giving up a 3rd for Bollig, or using a 2nd round pick on Hunter Smith, etc., but he's hit everything else out of the park. The biggest "mistake" he made was not upgrading Ramo and Hiller (and to me, considering we got average goaltending from them last year and Hiller had been an above average goalie for most of his career, that's on the players more than anything). The Flames weren't going to be contenders this year regardless of who was in net.

If the Flames would be so short-sighted to fire an extremely competent, intelligent, and modern thinking manager like Treliving, it would be devastating. The results will come, and I hope Burke/owners have the patience to realize that.

I've never been more confident in a Flames' manager. I know he's not going to get fleeced in trades. I trust his judgment with our high draft picks.

[BigFlameDog]

Originally Posted by Toonage

Renaud Lavoie coming up on the Fan960 to discuss the coaching vacancy.

- surprised Hartley was fired, joking that the Flames Twitter may have been hacked
- in talking with Hartley prior to the firing never thought there were issues
- suggesting Treliving is under pressure to find (all the) solutions
- sounds a little bitter on Bob's behalf (my opinion)
- doesn't feel the decision had anything to do with Boudreau's availability
- brings up Randy Carlyle, again citing the Burke relationship
- fully expects Boudreau & Yeo to be in the mix here and in Anaheim, suggests its all the same names for each job
- suggests they need a goaltender more than anything (not coaching related, but you know)
- thats it for coach talk

Agreed....sounded like Bob's buddy and not a neutral reporter...also listed not having a #1 center as a negative which I found funny.