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Old 04-29-2016, 11:43 AM   #61
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Does Eakins get a look?
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He seemed like a nitwit in the HBO show.
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Old 04-29-2016, 11:46 AM   #63
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I hope Flames management are looking at him.
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Does Eakins get a look?
I wouldn't mind seeing a swarm of mighty ducks.
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Old 04-29-2016, 11:49 AM   #65
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He's their AHL coach too, no? Seems like the right fit. I think we'd find out he's not as bad as the oilers made him seem
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He's their AHL coach too, no? Seems like the right fit. I think we'd find out he's not as bad as the oilers made him seem
Yes he is and I'm sure that Bob Murray will be talking to him.
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Old 04-29-2016, 11:58 AM   #67
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He's their AHL coach too, no? Seems like the right fit. I think we'd find out he's not as bad as the oilers made him seem
Now referred to as "the Dubnyk effect"
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I could see Boudreau being named head coach of the Vegas NHL team.
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Now referred to as "the Dubnyk effect"

Can we verb that?

"Most players and coaches Dubnyk when leaving the Oilers."

"No, Eakins didn't suddenly improve, he's just Dubnyking."
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Okay, so let's actually look at this.
In game 7's, Boudreau's teams outshoot the opposition (they get 54% of the shots on average, but only 1/3 of the goals). Boudreau's goalies have posted an .867 save percentage at 5 on 5. At even strength, 5.5% of their shots went into the net.
On the one hand, given the success rate of Boudreau's teams in these games I think this forms a powerful argument for the notion that the underlying numbers are not always foolproof indicators of all that goes in in the course of a hockey game.

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Year over year, during the regular season, those same teams have the following even strength numbers.

2008 WSH: .915 sv%, 7.8 sh%
2009 WSH: .920 sv%, 7.6 sh%
2010 WSH: .930 sv%, 10.4 sh%
2011 WSH: .927 sv%, 7.5 sh%
2013 ANA: .930 sv%, 8.6 sh%
2014 ANA: .926 sv%, 9.8 sh%
2015 ANA: .919 sv%, 8.4 sh%
2016 ANA: .923 sv%, 6.6 sh%

Those numbers are nowhere close to what his team gives him in game 7's.
Here again, I think this points to the fact that there is something fundamentally different about playing in the playoffs.

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So what's the theory here? Before every game 7, Boudreau gives his pre-game speech, and forgets to tell his goalies how to stop pucks and his skaters how to score, so they don't know what to do when they get out there?
Clearly, that is not anyone's theory. And for me I quite frankly don't have any idea about what it is that Boudreau is or is not doing correctly, but the fact that his teams now—and we are talking about two completely different rosters on several occasions—appear to really struggle with the Game 6/7 hump SHOULD and DOES reflect badly on him. If it happens a few times, or even half the time, then that looks like bad luck to me. When it happens nine times out of ten, I think it is completely reasonable to posit that he contributes to the problem.
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People may hate Hartley's line blender, but I think line blenders are what allow teams to win games at the very end of series. I see it with Quenneville all the time, and we saw Hartley go full line blender last year in game 6 when we were down 2-0 and then 3-0. Perhaps Boudreau waits too long to shuffle his lines in game 6 / 7 scenarios? Or perhaps he fails to effectively cut the ice time of depth players?

I'd be interested to see what he does different from a guy like Sutter or Quenneville in terms of player usage in elimination games.
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Old 04-29-2016, 12:41 PM   #72
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If it happens a few times, or even half the time, then that looks like bad luck to me. When it happens nine times out of ten, I think it is completely reasonable to posit that he contributes to the problem.
I agree with you, it's hard to imagine that it's a coincidence. It's like flipping a coin ten times and having it come up heads every time. So he must be doing something wrong, I guess? I just don't see what it could be. Maybe he has some nervous emotional energy that his players pick up on, or something similarly unquantifiable.

But that still doesn't really make sense, because then you'd expect them to be outshot and outpossessed. And they aren't. Boudreau teams tend to outplay their opposition, even though that opposition, being playoff opposition, is usually pretty damned good. And their opponents end up with absurdly high save percentages, or get every bounce offensively. It's hard to imagine what he could be doing to produce that result.

So maybe he DID just flip a coin ten times and lose all ten. The odds seem astronomical but I have trouble thinking of what the alternative explanation could be.
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I would love to have him here. Ducks had the #1 defence, power-play and penalty kill this season, while we are totally at the other end of the spectrum
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People may hate Hartley's line blender, but I think line blenders are what allow teams to win games at the very end of series. I see it with Quenneville all the time, and we saw Hartley go full line blender last year in game 6 when we were down 2-0 and then 3-0. Perhaps Boudreau waits too long to shuffle his lines in game 6 / 7 scenarios? Or perhaps he fails to effectively cut the ice time of depth players?

I'd be interested to see what he does different from a guy like Sutter or Quenneville in terms of player usage in elimination games.
I can't remember who said it on the panel last game, but they said Boudreau was constantly trying to "get Getzlaf away from Toews" in the playoffs last season, and Quenneville was messing with his head.

Hell, Boudreau even seemed worried after beating the Flames 4-1, and said the series was a lot closer than it may have appeared.
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Boudreau's been able to coach many different styles and win, with a high-flying finesse group in Washington, with a heavy forecheck in Anaheim, and even won with an in-season adjustment in Anaheim to a patient, defensive style.

He'd definitely be an improvement on Hartley
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Boudreau's been able to coach many different styles and win, with a high-flying finesse group in Washington, with a heavy forecheck in Anaheim, and even won with an in-season adjustment in Anaheim to a patient, defensive style.

He'd definitely be an improvement on Hartley
Plus he would fit the usual pattern of switching between "hard ass" and "player's coach".
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Boudreau's been able to coach many different styles and win, with a high-flying finesse group in Washington, with a heavy forecheck in Anaheim, and even won with an in-season adjustment in Anaheim to a patient, defensive style.

He'd definitely be an improvement on Hartley
He would be an improvement over pretty well any coach in the NHL outside of a very small group of coaches. The team that gets him will immediately be on the road to improvement.
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He would be an improvement over pretty well any coach in the NHL outside of a very small group of coaches. The team that gets him will immediately be on the road to improvement.
Yes, let's get to that point where we complain about having 110 points every season.
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Yes, let's get to that point where we complain about having 110 points every season.
Exactly. If he can't get the Flames to the Stanley Cup after consistent 100 point seasons then we can go down that road about whether he's the right coach for this team or not.
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Absolutely, Boudreau's 9 seasons in the NHL have ended this way:

2008 WSH: Game 7 home loss to Philadelphia
2009 WSH: Game 7 home loss to Pittsburgh
2010 WSH: Game 7 home loss to Montreal
2011 WSH: Swept by Tampa Bay as the higher seed
2012: Fired midseason by Washington, hired by Anaheim and missed playoffs
2013 ANA: Game 7 home loss to Detroit
2014 ANA: Game 7 home loss to Los Angeles
2015 ANA: Game 7 home loss to Chicago

2016 ANA: Game 7 home loss to Nashville
I don't know if I see this as anything but bad luck. He took the eventual Stanley Cup winners to game 7 three times in his career. The Ducks were the only team to bring the Hawks to game 7 last year, in that series the Blackhawks won in triple overtime and double overtime. Either game goes the other way and the Ducks are hoisting the Cup.

2009 he won game 7 against the Rangers as well, so it's not like he's only lost game 7s.
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