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Split98 · 01-14-2016, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by undercoverbrother

I am not pro-lawsuit, I am not anti-lawsuit.

But turns like "erodes any sympathy" is, to me, callous.

Sometimes "mom" has the best advice.

Not to be rude, but IMO this hardly falls under the frivolous lawsuit heading.

Is it untrue?

My entire reason for taking time talking to people here was to entertain the discussion that there has to be a better way to solve these problems. Not that Denna is an immoral person, and not that less sympathy towards her is right. Her situation is still horrible and I fully agree that this is likely the doings of her insurance.

It's just unfortunate this is how this is done.

undercoverbrother · 01-14-2016, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Split98

Is it untrue?

Yeah I would say it is untrue, I suspect there are others in reading that think the same way as i do, and contrary to you.

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My entire reason for taking time talking to people here was to entertain the discussion that there has to be a better way to solve these problems. Not that Denna is an immoral person, and not that less sympathy towards her is right. Her situation is still horrible and I fully agree that this is likely the doings of her insurance.

It's just unfortunate this is how this is done.

So what is the better way? To be honest, the lawsuit is the best way.

Also, can you explain what you mean by "this is likely the doings of her insurance"?

PeteMoss · 01-14-2016, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Split98

Is it untrue?

My entire reason for taking time talking to people here was to entertain the discussion that there has to be a better way to solve these problems. Not that Denna is an immoral person, and not that less sympathy towards her is right. Her situation is still horrible and I fully agree that this is likely the doings of her insurance.

It's just unfortunate this is how this is done.

Yes it is untrue. I still sympathize for a person who's now paralyzed from an injury suffered in a hockey game regardless of who they sue after the fact.

VladtheImpaler · 01-14-2016, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Weitz

So the waiver she signed isn't worth anything? I always wondered about those waivers.

Depends on how well the waiver is written, and how the signing of it was handled (if there is a waiver in this case). Waivers can certainly prevent a lawsuit if properly written and properly presented/signed.

automaton 3 · 01-14-2016, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Split98

Is it untrue?

My entire reason for taking time talking to people here was to entertain the discussion that there has to be a better way to solve these problems. Not that Denna is an immoral person, and not that less sympathy towards her is right. Her situation is still horrible and I fully agree that this is likely the doings of her insurance.

It's just unfortunate this is how this is done.

Do you expect that the NHL, the Patriots and their insurers to open their wallets out of the goodness of their hearts? Wishful thinking. There will likely be a long protracted fight over the allocation of liability.

Knut · 01-14-2016, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by PeteMoss

Yes it is untrue. I still sympathize for a person who's now paralyzed from an injury suffered in a hockey game regardless of who they sue after the fact.

Curious if he sympathized with Moore still; after he sued Bertuzzi, Crawford and the Canucks.

Split98 · 01-14-2016, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by undercoverbrother

Yeah I would say it is untrue, I suspect there are others in reading that think the same way as i do, and contrary to you.

So what is the better way? To be honest, the lawsuit is the best way.

Also, can you explain what you mean by "this is likely the doings of her insurance"?

You could be right, and its unfortunate.

And by the insurance comment I'm just agreeing with others mentioning that this whole lawsuit comes from her insurance pushing this along and not necessarily her wishes

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Split98 · 01-14-2016, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by PeteMoss

Yes it is untrue. I still sympathize for a person who's now paralyzed from an injury suffered in a hockey game regardless of who they sue after the fact.

Who said there's no sympathy?

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Split98 · 01-14-2016, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by automaton 3

Do you expect that the NHL, the Patriots and their insurers to open their wallets out of the goodness of their hearts? Wishful thinking. There will likely be a long protracted fight over the allocation of liability.

It is, but I do. It's my whole point entirely.

Not the world we live in, but I wish it was. All of been saying all along.

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Split98 · 01-14-2016, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Hesla

Curious if he sympathized with Moore still; after he sued Bertuzzi, Crawford and the Canucks.

A great comparison. The general consensus option of Steve Moore wasn't entirely positive.

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undercoverbrother · 01-14-2016, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Split98

You could be right, and its unfortunate.

And by the insurance comment I'm just agreeing with others mentioning that this whole lawsuit comes from her insurance pushing this along and not necessarily her wishes

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Yeah nah, I don't reckon it is her Insurance company that is pushing this matter.

I could be wrong, but they have no skin in the game, nor a right of action.

Knut · 01-14-2016, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Split98

A great comparison. The general consensus option of Steve Moore wasn't entirely positive.

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Are you sure about that. Maybe in Vancouver. I still think most were still sided with Moore... even after word of the lawsuits came out.

Split98 · 01-14-2016, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Hesla

Are you sure about that. Maybe in Vancouver. I still think most were still sided with Moore... even after word of the lawsuits came out.

I'm not really sure what exactly to search for but I remember the opinion of him being more negative than you'd expect when he did that 'behind the scenes' a little while back.

Does anyone else remember that, or just me?

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Split98 · 01-14-2016, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by undercoverbrother

Yeah nah, I don't reckon it is her Insurance company that is pushing this matter.

I could be wrong, but they have no skin in the game, nor a right of action.

My understanding of how the States does things is pretty poor. But, the skin I assumed they have would be to cover her medical bills.

Again, the American system is a bit of a haze to me. Especially when you account that so many people have different coverage.

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undercoverbrother · 01-14-2016, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Split98

My understanding of how the States does things is pretty poor. But, the skin I assumed they have would be to cover her medical bills.

Again, the American system is a bit of a haze to me. Especially when you account that so many people have different coverage.

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If you don't have a good understanding of the situation, maybe don't comment on it.

Split98 · 01-14-2016, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by undercoverbrother

If you don't have a good understanding of the situation, maybe don't comment on it.

Don't be an ass.

Steve Bozek · 01-14-2016, 06:21 PM

The immediate and rehab costs of caring for a quadriplegic are immense, and assuming she adjusts well to the problem and starts to build a new life, the maintenance of health and a relatively independent lifestyle also involves major ongoing costs for the rest of her life. Most U.S. insurance companies are always looking for ways to reduce payments, so at this stage it makes sense to explore all long term finance options, and if negligence on the part of the organizers is a reasonable possibility, then litigation is the route to go.

undercoverbrother · 01-14-2016, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Split98

Don't be an ass.

I am not being an ass.

This is a serious situation, a person has had their life drastically changed.

If you don't know what you are talking about, which you admit, either keep it to yourself or educate yourself.

You have done neither.

socalwingfan · 01-14-2016, 06:32 PM

I can almost guarantee that it's the insurance company spearheading the lawsuit. I had to go to the emergency room to stitch up an eye after a surfing accident - a week later I received letters almost daily from the insurance company questioning what happened and was anyone at fault.

Split98 · 01-14-2016, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by undercoverbrother

I am not being an ass.

This is a serious situation, a person has had their life drastically changed.

If you don't know what you are talking about, which you admit, either keep it to yourself or educate yourself.

You have done neither.

Are you speaking from an educated stance? Please enlighten me as to your background that gives you such knowledge. Instead of just saying 'your wrong, shut up' please share your knowledge.

I am not the only one who expressed that her insurance is pushing this along, this began on page 1. I'm sure other people are interested in your knowledge as well.

Otherwise, you're being an ass.

Edit: and the severity of her situation has never been in question. I don't know why that even needs to be mentioned. I'd love for you to quote me in full context that shows I have ever questioned the severity of her situation. The severity of her situation is why the lawsuit irritates me.