Calgary man out of a job after racist tirade caught on video.

[Matata]

Don't underestimate the unwanted distraction this is causing the company. I bet everyone there is currently stressed to the gills, taking calls from concerned clients and SJWs. This is the kind of bad press that can sink a company, even if they get through this with their client list and reputation intact, everything they do now will be looked at under a microscope.

If an employee tossed a grenade like that into my lap, I sure as hell would be showing them the door.

[MickMcGeough]

Something bad happened to a ####head. I don't see a problem here.

[To Be Quite Honest]

Originally Posted by Ne7en

You do realize he assaulted the cab driver?

I'm surprised with the level of tolerance by some posters. This is racism.

Actually, while I'd prefer to ignore you post I feel I should respond to this. So tell me Ne7en, how would you promote positive change from this situation? I understand the pitchfork and torch reactions, but, IMO, it's far better to step back and really think about a situation and how to change it with the best impact.

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[ken0042]

Originally Posted by To Be Quite Honest

I understand the pitchfork and torch reactions, but, IMO, it's far better to step back and really think about a situation and how to change it with the best impact.

Isn't that the job of the criminal justice system- to rehabilitate people who commit crimes?

[PsYcNeT]

Work EAP is meant to help employees through tough times, stress, and to mediate relationships. It isn't to teach people how not be racist, violent ####bags.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by To Be Quite Honest

There are many reasons for therapy and the only time someone would actually go under this circumstance is threat of job loss. (I'm on my phone right now and it's a pain to text so I hope this is making sense.)
The guy also has a family, I assume, and by firing him outright there is little chance of change and much more for resentment which can be passed on to the children. By offering redemption we can turn this into a positive story. In fact, society will always do better with positive reinforcement over negative.

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I get what you're saying, but none of the above is the companies concern. He's caused a stir, he's gone, a company doesn't want to go through the time and expense of rehabilitation of this guy.

Organizations aren't there to change a persons personal outlook, or personal bad habits.

The therapy options are really there to help a person cope with the stresses of the workplace, not act as a therapy for a person that is pretty clearly a idiot.

Its easier, and its cheaper and its a lot less effort for them to just cut ties.

The feel good story of rehabilitating a person means nothing to the company that he works for my friend.

Plus I don't know too many companies that would want to associate with an employee who went on a public racist rant and assaulted a taxi driver. Especially since in this day in age a company really wants to protect their image from that because organizations deal with so many different races and cultures.

[para transit fellow]

Originally Posted by Igottago

He could always start driving a cab.

While this is a funny thought, if an assault charge is laid, the fellow may not be able to pass the police check for a Calgary taxi licence.

[To Be Quite Honest]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

I get what you're saying, but none of the above is the companies concern. He's caused a stir, he's gone, a company doesn't want to go through the time and expense of rehabilitation of this guy.

Organizations aren't there to change a persons personal outlook, or personal bad habits.

The therapy options are really there to help a person cope with the stresses of the workplace, not act as a therapy for a person that is pretty clearly a idiot.

Its easier, and its cheaper and its a lot less effort for them to just cut ties.

The feel good story of rehabilitating a person means nothing to the company that he works for my friend.

Plus I don't know too many companies that would want to associate with an employee who went on a public racist rant and assaulted a taxi driver. Especially since in this day in age a company really wants to protect their image from that because organizations deal with so many different races and cultures.

Maybe he lost someone in the middle East conflicts? We don't know at this point. Companies are there to help in those instances. (That's is a situation that could explain, not condone, his behavior.) Mind you that point is moot as we don't know.

I also feel a lot of empathy for the driver here. The thoughts and feelings he is going through must be a nightmare.



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[Oling_Roachinen]

Originally Posted by To Be Quite Honest

Maybe he lost someone in the middle East conflicts?

Uggh, let's not try and make excuses for his racism.

[Derek Sutton]

This is the society we have all created for ourselves. The guy from this video, the FHRITP guy from the Ontario soccer game and I was told last week the girl from the (in)famous Stampede threesome, have all lost their jobs. These are just three recent ones of off the top of my head. All different circumstances but cases of viral gone viral. It is 1984, we are big brother.

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by Derek Sutton

This is the society we have all created for ourselves. The guy from this video, the FHRITP guy from the Ontario soccer game and I was told last week the girl from the (in)famous Stampede threesome, have all lost their jobs. These are just three recent ones of off the top of my head. All different circumstances but cases of viral gone viral. It is 1984, we are big brother.

From the Herald's comments section:

Yeah, you can't even assault cab drivers any more without some ORWELLIAN NANNY STATE recording everything. Oh wait, cabs are private property with dash cams, not Winston Smith's living room, and this was racist abuse, not 'speaking ill of the Party'. Grow up dip####.

[ernie]

Originally Posted by Makarov

None of this is really very accurate. For example, absent a "just cause" clause, a person can indeed be dismissed from employment even if it amounts to discrimination. As far as I know, no provincial Human Rights Code grants the authority to return a successful applicant to their former position. The only remedy available is an award of damages.

Oh it's very accurate. Deal with it all the time as a manager in a large multinational. We get a significant amount of training every year on it. You don't get to just terminate. There is paperwork and explanation and usually to top it off and exit agreement signed and package given. To quote one source that agrees the companies approach.

"So there really is no such thing as “at-will” employment except for how long the employee decides to stay. From the employer’s perspective, the employment relationship is really a blend of statutory, contract/policy and circumstance."

http://www.hrexaminer.com/why-at-wil...isn%E2%80%99t/

The very good example the author gives is a company with a progressive discipline policy. It undermines at will because you aren't truly practicing at will as a company. You have laid out very specifically how one gets terminated in the company. Heck in some cases performance reviews do the same as they serve as the start to the discipline system in companies.

I've never worked for a company that didn't have progressive discipline.

So in short as the author says unless the manual and practice is only EEO statements and benefit and leave explanation you are unlikely to truly be an at will employer...no matter what you believe. It's why HR departments and company lawyers exist...so you hire and fire properly without getting the company in trouble. And it extends far beyond just your protected classes.

Also awarded damages can indeed be reinstatement of the job.

[To Be Quite Honest]

Originally Posted by Oling_Roachinen

Uggh, let's not try and make excuses for his racism.

You must have missed the entire rest of the post.

I took a course and there is a lesson I was taught at a young age when I entered into customer service and it always stuck with me. When you are serving someone (in this case it was a 5 star restaurant) and the person is abrupt, rude or completely nasty we always have to keep in mind that we don't know what might have happened to them. They could have lost a family member, lost their luggage or something else that has affected their life. While it isn't making an excuse for them to act the way they do it can offer you a reason to move on and not allow it to affect your life and give you a different perspective.

In terms of healing, it is far easier to fix a problem if you know why something happened. In the case of this man, and his deplorable/criminal behavior, knowing why something has happened is important.

Back on December 4th I had an encounter on the transit downtown. While in my anger and need for VENGEANCE!!!! I quickly wanted this guy to get some "old style justice", but in the end he is just broken. I pity him and the misery he lives in. I would prefer that he got mental help instead of learning how to be a better criminal in jail.

If the guy doesn't see that what he did was wrong, and if he is against getting help then I am all for throwing him under the bus.

[Weitz]

Does anyone actually think the company he worked for is suffering from this?

Is this even going to be a story in a week?

I think the guy should be charged for his actions. But on the fence for the job loss.

[jammies]

This is why I always put on my Klan hood before getting in a cab.

[Sliver]

Originally Posted by To Be Quite Honest

Maybe he lost someone in the middle East conflicts? We don't know at this point. Companies are there to help in those instances. (That's is a situation that could explain, not condone, his behavior.) Mind you that point is moot as we don't know.

I also feel a lot of empathy for the driver here. The thoughts and feelings he is going through must be a nightmare.

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Hahaha are you a nutbar or something? Companies aren't there to help people through violent drunken racist episodes.

[Nage Waza]

Not defending what the guy said, but is there an expectation of privacy in a cab?

[sureLoss]

Originally Posted by Nage Waza

Not defending what the guy said, but is there an expectation of privacy in a cab?

Not when a security camera is clearly pointed at you.

[Mr.Coffee]

Holy #### what an #######.

I would 100x rather have the cabbie in our country than this piece of garbage. It would be so awesome if Canada could purchase a small island in the Pacific or something and ship people like this there. Caught on dash cam being racist? See ya!

[wontondestruction]

Originally Posted by Nage Waza

Not defending what the guy said, but is there an expectation of privacy in a cab?

If this guy wants to be a racist ####### in the privacy of his own home, that's no one's business. Even if there was no camera in the cab, he was being racist in front of/at a complete stranger, the cab driver. He deserves every horrible thing that's coming to him.