[Trade] Leafs trade David Clarkson to Blue Jackets for Nathan Horton

[JohnnySkittles]

Originally Posted by nik-

Because Columbus is not a market that can be paying 6 million for nothing like the Leafs can. If those dollars are being eaten, they need something for it.

So what you're saying is that Columbus is more of a budget team and just because they had him on LTIR, doesn't mean they could've spent that 6M else where?

[sureLoss]

Aaron Portzline @Aportzline
#CBJ did not have insurance on Nathan Horton, so they would have had to pay the full amount of his contract for the rest of his term.

[Bring_Back_Shantz]

The more I think if it, the more this trade makes sense for both teams.

Columbs is now paying less out of pocket, and they have someone who can at least be a 3rd/4th liner in Clarkson.
Toronto on the other hand is paying more out of pocket, but gains some cap space.

So basically, it kind of works out as Toronto paying a $1 MM of Horton's salary, and Clarkson is playing for free in Columbus.

Pretty clever by both sides.

[sureLoss]

Originally Posted by saillias

That doesn't make this any less confusing.

Flames looking at moving out Raymond and Stajan to make room to take on Horton? If true we are a very strange org.

It would have been Horton + young player for Stajan + Raymond. Or so I am told.

[Calgary4LIfe]

Genius move by both teams. Toronto - a very rich team - gets the cap space every year remaining on Horton's contract when he goes on LTIR.

Columbus gets an actual player for the money they would be dishing out.

Genius is overstating it I guess, but probably as close to a 'win-win' under the circumstances.

[IliketoPuck]

The way I was thinking of it was a bit different I guess. Thanks for the clarification.

[JiriHrdina]

Yup you nailed it. It is all about a cap team va budget team

[transplant99]

Another thing about this deal...the Leafs get cap relief of Hortons contract, but that does not kick in until the season begins....meaning they cannot use that space until training camps etc are all done and although they can exceed the limit by 10% through the summer, they must be compliant before the season starts...which would have to include that 6 million tag.

At least this is how i understand it.

So if the Leafs want to use that space...they cant do so until the regular season is underway when all the UFA's and whatnot have long been signed elsewhere.

Anyone else want to confirm or dispute this? Cause the deal makes no sense for TO imo if this is still the rule.

[Badgers Nose]

That was a serious pimp trade for Nonnis. Mad props to him.

It's mad accountin skillz that make trades like this possible.

I'm jealous. They dumped a bad contract for a ltir player.

Stajan + Raymond for Horton and a pick or prospect would have been sweet.

[OzSome]

Maybe leaving Toronto might help Clarkson. He is still an overpaid player though but at least he won't be scrutinized by media as much in Columbus compare to Toronto. I agree Columbus just wanting to pay someone who can play rather than paying Horton for not playing as he is not insured.

[lazypucker]

I thought the league has banned trading of injured players...

[united]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

why would Columbus do this

What don't you understand?
Toronto, who has piles of money, gains cap space.
Columbus now pays for someone who can at least skate as opposed to a player who is essentially retired.

[Badgers Nose]

Originally Posted by transplant99

Another thing about this deal...the Leafs get cap relief of Hortons contract, but that does not kick in until the season begins....meaning they cannot use that space until training camps etc are all done and although they can eceed the limit by 10% through the summer, they must be compliant before the season starts...which would have to include that 6 million tag.

At least this is how i understand it.

So if the Leafs want to use that space...they cant do so until the regular season is underway when all the UFA's and whatnot have long been signed elsewhere.

Anyone else want to confirm or dispute this? Cause the deal makes no sense for TO imo if this is still the rule.

It does if they are trading Phil Dion and Joffrey for picks and prospects this week and at the draft.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

They still have to pay Clarkson $5.25 million every year.

And really, Clarkson isn't much of an NHLer.

A cardboard cutout of Nathan Horton is better than David Clarkson.

[dammage79]

CLB as a mid/small market team really couldn't afford to pay Horton to not pay. Also, stupid not to insure the contract.

[MrMastodonFarm]

Originally Posted by saillias

That doesn't make this any less confusing.

Flames looking at moving out Raymond and Stajan to make room to take on Horton? If true we are a very strange org.

Both have been and will continue to be pushed down the roster by younger players pushing their way up. If you can move those guys out and get something for them, then you do it.

[nik-]

Originally Posted by Locke

A cardboard cutout of Nathan Horton is better than David Clarkson.

Any player that can put on skates is better than Nathan Horton right now.

[Roof-Daddy]

So obviously Calgary wasn't going to trade the Jackets a "Clarkson" in exchange for Horton's contract because we don't have a deal that atrocious........I wonder what BT was looking at getting in return for taking Horton's contract?

If it was something really sweet, then go **** yourself Nonis.

He's the idiot that signed that Clarkson deal.....was hoping he'd choke on it all the way to the unemployment line cause that's what he deserves for dishing out that kind of deal for middle six player. Instead he uses it to potentially steal an asset from the Flames.

[Anduril]

Toronto should get full marks for managing to take advantage of their money as an organization in order to get risk of Clarkson and all of his caphit. Both players' contracts expire in 2020. Could you imagine paying Clarkson for that long when they're already pretty close to the cap? I'm sure they'll end up overpaying for some other UFA.

Seemed like Columbus would rather hold onto whatever asset and pay a warm body who can take the ice instead of getting actual NHL players.

[Ashasx]

Originally Posted by united

What don't you understand?
Toronto, who has piles of money, gains cap space.
Columbus now pays for someone who can at least skate as opposed to a player who is essentially retired.

Uh, save your condescending posts for those who deserve it.

Posted before that information became clear.