Which Oilers would you trade for?

[Resolute 14]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

Scrivens is beyond awful. He's a big part of the problem up in Shelbyville. He's a subpar backup goalie at best.

Scrivens is far better than he looks in Edmonton, but not as good as the Kings made him look. He's a decent backup, and if we needed one (we don't), I would be willing to take him on. Any team counting on him to start is in trouble though.

[JonDuke]

If all it takes is some criticism of the teams performance to get "threatened" to be traded, I'm surprised more Oilers haven't followed Perron's strategy already.

[Reggie Dunlop]

All of their draft picks.

As a humanitarian gesture.

[waner]

Originally Posted by Yamer

Out of the guys they would be willing to trade, probably Eberle.

I'm a little surprised how much his value, on this board at least, seems to have dropped. I don't exactly have a ton of knowledge on the player, but he always struck me as that solid regular season forward that would prove his true merit in the playoffs. Of course, playing in Edmonton we will probably never see that latter quality.

Right winger, good for a minimum of 25 goals and 60 points consistently when he's healthy. And I really think there's the heart of a competitor there.

To me he is the laziest of all the forwards and shows zero sense of caring at all about the losing. He is soft as butter, has the double dose of not caring or understanding how to play defense and outside of one year with a crazy shooting percentage he has been an okay not great offensive player.

In junior despite being surrounded by other good players he had little to no success in terms of even making the play-offs, let alone playing in them so I imagine his show up in play-offs has to with him scoring a goal in which 3 other guys did a hell of a lot more to get him the tap in for Team Canada as the basis for you thinking he would do well in the play-offs? Because he has shown in the NHL when the physicality and defensive play is increased he has no problem taking games off.

Hall does everything better than him. Much better scorerer, better effort on defense, plays a physical game, gives a damn, has a history in junior of being great in the play-offs and winning.

The only reason I can think of wanting Eberle over Hall is if you think you can get him for cheap or that Edmonton wouldn't give up Hall because in terms of hockey play Hall is vastly superior.

[waner]

Originally Posted by killer_carlson

coming from a guy trolling with Ramo for Scrivens rumours

What rumours?

I said I prefer Scrivens over Ramo.

[killer_carlson]

Originally Posted by waner

What rumours?

I said I prefer Scrivens over Ramo.

sorry, you are right.

Scrivens for Ramo garbage.

[Resolute 14]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Can't see them trading Nurse.

How about Marincin for Knight or Arnold? Either one of them can step right in and help their C siuation. And they don't give up a roster player. Marincin is a salvageable asset that we could use (after some reprogramming).

However, I just can't for the life of me imagine trading any of our boys to that dumpster fire.

Bleh. I would rather we go back to the days where trading with the Oilers is considered an unforgiveable sin.

That said, I guess I wouldn't be opposed to giving Marincin a shot in our third pairing.

[saillias]

Originally Posted by waner

To me he is the laziest of all the forwards and shows zero sense of caring at all about the losing. He is soft as butter, has the double dose of not caring or understanding how to play defense and outside of one year with a crazy shooting percentage he has been an okay not great offensive player.

In junior despite being surrounded by other good players he had little to no success in terms of even making the play-offs, let alone playing in them so I imagine his show up in play-offs has to with him scoring a goal in which 3 other guys did a hell of a lot more to get him the tap in for Team Canada as the basis for you thinking he would do well in the play-offs? Because he has shown in the NHL when the physicality and defensive play is increased he has no problem taking games off.

Hall does everything better than him. Much better scorerer, better effort on defense, plays a physical game, gives a damn, has a history in junior of being great in the play-offs and winning.

The only reason I can think of wanting Eberle over Hall is if you think you can get him for cheap or that Edmonton wouldn't give up Hall because in terms of hockey play Hall is vastly superior.

Pretty much^ if there's a player on that team that represents what's wrong with the Oilers, more Eberle than Hall. More Schultz than Perron. They don't care though (MacT, the rest of the org). They have invested in these guys, played favourites before they proved they were worth it, and refuse to budge.

[BloodFetish]

I think we found the new Moon, but he's already on the wane...

[waner]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

He's a 6'4" 203 lb 22 year old. Plays physically, has a shot, and can move the puck.

Playing defense in the NHL is an acquired skill and I have no doubt the Flames - and Giordano - could make him a player.

He is not a good NHL defenseman yet, but he has shown that he can be in the future, with some coaching.

He is almost as close to being a regular NHLer as Wotherspoon is (though Wotherspoon is a much smarter player).

Getting a prospect like him, in exchange for one of our forward prospects, would be help balance out our prospect base.

Fair enough.

I haven't seen anything that indicates that he could be a NHL defenseman in the future but trading a likely to not make it forward for a likey to not make it defenseman is a good idea. With the prospect base we have better to get a few more defensemen to take a chance on developing.

[powderjunkie]

I would only take draft picks from them, because they are always going to be high ones.

[Winsor_Pilates]

Only Eberle. I still think he's a head and shoulders above his team in the character department and a good atmosphere, locker room and coach could help him get his game back.
Aside from that, I'd be worried about the negative impact their players would bring to such an amazing team spirit we have going.

[FlamesAddiction]

Draisatl is still young enough that he isn't ruined, but he is going to need some guidance and positive role models soon.

[schteve_d]

For the right price I'd take almost any Oiler. Nothing says we have to put them in the same position (over their head) and set them up to fail. Put them in a slot they belong and a good organisation behind them and I'm sure they'd be ok. Besides, what better way to shove it in the Oiler's organizational faces than to take their junk, polish it up and make it shine!

[Neeper]

I would swap our entire roster for theirs.

[Antithesis]

You'd have to imagine that the great relief that would come from being traded out of Edmonton would instantly improve the performance of, well, basically any player. I just don't know that I could bring myself to trade any of our current players up there. Even trading a draft pick to them seems unfair to some future prospect.

[dammage79]

I'd acquire Hall, Draisaitl and Yakimov. The rest I am pretty meh on. I used to love Eberle and would have taken him over any of them combined but he's fallen off of the radar.

[Flamescat]

Save this kid.. Just keep that C off of him..

[waner]

Originally Posted by Antithesis

You'd have to imagine that the great relief that would come from being traded out of Edmonton would instantly improve the performance of, well, basically any player. I just don't know that I could bring myself to trade any of our current players up there. Even trading a draft pick to them seems unfair to some future prospect.

I think Eberle, Perron, Yak and Schultz would be pretty pissed that theycouldn't just coast and actually had to pay attention to the defensive zone.

Nevermind the fact of how pissed/shocked they would be when sat in the PB because they coasted back while the opponent went in on a 3 on 0.

[Hackey]

Originally Posted by killer_carlson

you're exactly right. People did say the same things about Carter and Richards and it took them a while to figure it out off ice. When they did, they were awesome. But it took a while.

Seguin is well on his way.

However note that all 3 stories you point out are markets where the players are well beyond media scrutiny.

If I were made Oiler GM, Hall would be the first player I would trade.

Not sure it took them a while to figure it out. First year they were traded they won it all. You could argue their age but seems like a bit of a coincidence. Maybe it was just made to be a bigger deal than it actually was. Seguin as well became one of the top players in the league as soon as he was traded. A change of scenery often does wonders. Especially when you leave the worst run organization in the league and go to a well run one. Put Hall in a good situation and as I said I think he could be a top 10 player in the league. Seems to me your basing your opinion more off your personal feelings towards him than his actual hockey ability. We don't know him as a person so why make opinions like we do. We can see what he is capable of on the ice though so I'll base my opinion on that. He seemed to excell in junior when surrounded by a good team. Led his team to two memorial cups. Id say he's handled himself pretty damn well considering he's played his entire career in Edmonton.