AHL goalie David Leggio "beats" 2 on 0 play

[Resolute 14]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Can't make it an auto-goal because, unlike throwing a stick on an empty net attempt, there might have been a save. But I'd like to see a misconduct in addition to the penalty - and maybe a suspension like Avery got for unsportsmanlike conduct.

The AHL BOG could make whatever rule change they wish, and making it an automatic goal would immediately prevent this from ever happening again.

[Trailer Fire]

But the game is perfect and can't evolve though!!!

[You Need a Thneed]

Originally Posted by hulkrogan

I don't get the outrage.

At one point, some jerk started slowing guys down buy using the blade of their stick to impede the opposing player.

They had to invent the hooking penalty.

Some guy would hit players that weren't near the puck.

I guess we'll call that one interference.

The rule book didn't come from a bunch of guys imagining would could happen, it was written on the backs of a bunch of dirty cheats that have been part of hockey for as long as it's been a competitive sport. Most ways of cheating are covered now, but this guy found a new one, and a new rule will be added.

Exactly this. Every rule in the rulebook is there because at one time, someone thought they would try to use what wasn't in the rulebook to their advantage.

It's happened many, many times, and it will happen forever.

[Yrebmi]

I wish there was a better shot of the actual net flipping.
It would make a great meme.

[polak]

Originally Posted by Resolute 14

The AHL BOG could make whatever rule change they wish, and making it an automatic goal would immediately prevent this from ever happening again.

Then you get it into problems with intent.

What if the goalie slips while backing up on a 2-0 and knocks the net off? Automatic goal?

[transplant99]

This was awesome....kudos to him for thinking about such a thing before anyone else did. Funny stuff.

That being said, they need to change the rule obviously, but that's how rules are written, because of situations. This is just one never seen before is all.

[zyzz]

Pretty funny for sure, like others said change the rule, if it happens again on a breakaway again auto goal.

[foshizzle11]

Originally Posted by polak

Then you get it into problems with intent.

What if the goalie slips while backing up on a 2-0 and knocks the net off? Automatic goal?

That is completely different, if someone does that intentionally it's an automatic goal. If it's an accident then a penalty shot? In that situation, nobody can get away with it being an accident.

[Stay Golden]

I thought it was clever. Likely a new rule will be discussed to avoid this from being a trend though.

[Skaloper]

This automatic goal talk is nonsense.

I say if you do this on a 2-0 the two players get two penalty shots. If its 3-0 then three penalty shots.

[doctajones428]

Oh no, he found a loop hole, tried it, and it worked. The rules will obviously be changed and the next goalie to do it will be punished.

To say this was unsportsmanlike and childish is hilarious.

[Arya Stark]

Originally Posted by polak

Then you get it into problems with intent.

What if the goalie slips while backing up on a 2-0 and knocks the net off? Automatic goal?

Seriously? How often does the goalie trip over himself and knock the net off?

Intent would be extremely easy to tell and it wouldn't be a problem.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Arya Stark

Seriously? How often does the goalie trip over himself and knock the net off?

Intent would be extremely easy to tell and it wouldn't be a problem.

Goalies knock the net off all the time without any call. It wouldn't be that hard to "trip" when backing into the crease. Hansek sometimes would flop to get a call - it's similar.

There's never been an automatic goal penalty without an empty net.

[GettinIggyWithIt]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Goalies knock the net off all the time without any call. It wouldn't be that hard to "trip" when backing into the crease. Hansek sometimes would flop to get a call - it's similar.

There's never been an automatic goal penalty without an empty net.

Really? And how many of those have happened on a breakaway or 2-0 or 2-1 for that matter. Not saying there should be an automatic goal penalty based on one situation (although if it happens often I would think they would look at discouraging it) but let's be serious here - intent would be pretty easy to tell in these situations. Goalies knock the net off during a scrum in front of the net or when there's traffic and they're moving between the pipes - something like that. I have never seen a goalie trip and knock the net over on a breakaway or 2-0...that would be pretty laughable. If Hasek flopped on a breakaway with no traffic around him, I think it would be pretty clear that it was intentional.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by GettinIggyWithIt

Really? And how many of those have happened on a breakaway or 2-0 or 2-1 for that matter. Not saying there should be an automatic goal penalty based on one situation (although if it happens often I would think they would look at discouraging it) but let's be serious here - intent would be pretty easy to tell in these situations. Goalies knock the net off during a scrum in front of the net or when there's traffic and they're moving between the pipes - something like that. I have never seen a goalie trip and knock the net over on a breakaway or 2-0...that would be pretty laughable. If Hasek flopped on a breakaway with no traffic around him, I think it would be pretty clear that it was intentional.

No goalie would do it on a breakaway anyway. But I just can't see an auto-goal.

It's not much different, to me, than the so called "good penalty" which prevents a grade A scoring chance.

[TjRhythmic]

I thought it was funny... cheap, but I'm sure there'll be a rule change sooner or later.

Although, I always thought one of the Oilers goalies would be doing something like this. I can easily see Scrivens watch 5 guys go behind the net, again, looking at the several opposing players in the slot and saying... #### this ####, and flip the net.

[Itse]

I'm honestly a little freaked out by all the outrage. Some of you people take the game way too seriously.

[Philly06Cup]

I distinguish between ways to cheat within the context of the game and those outside of the game. Hooking, slashing, interference are ways to 'cheat' within the context of the game of hockey. Throwing gloves, pushing the net off, diving are ways to cheat outside the context of the game. These deserve more severe consequences. (NHL: wake up!)

In the same vein, roughing and high-sticking are violent actions during the game, but within the context of acceptable acts in hockey. Spearing, biting, and hitting someone on the head are actions outside the context of acceptable acts in hockey and deserve harder suspensions / fines.

[C_of_Red28]

To me this is like Sean Avery waving his stick in front of Brodeur's face.. Just embarrassing. Hope they fix this rule.. Leggio should be playing in some prison league if he wants to play like that.. #notimpress

[Grimbl420]

Originally Posted by doctajones428

Oh no, he found a loop hole, tried it, and it worked. The rules will obviously be changed and the next goalie to do it will be punished.

To say this was unsportsmanlike and childish is hilarious.

How exactly is refusing to play by intentionally breaking a rule, not unsportsmanlike?

This is the very definition of a childish act.