Doughty - Weber
Keith - Seabrook
Bouwmeester - Pietrangelo
Letang
This is how I want the D to be aswell. The only problem is Babcock said in an interview that he isn't a fan of putting D on their off sides. He prefers Left handed shots playing left and vice versa. Doughty and Weber are both shoot right.
I don't get all the Subban hate. The guy is a Norris winner. That means he's the best. No one better. Yeah, he's a head case and I'm not a fan of him, but to leave a Norris winner off of the roster is plain stupid if you ask me.
To win the Norris, they should have every forward in the league state who they least want to try and beat/go into a corner with 1 on 1. My guess is Subban is far from the top of that list.
The Norris is going the way of looking at NHL.com stats for defensmen and picking the guy at the top. He is not the best. Maybe the best at scoring. That does not make him a great or even good defenseman.
Weber, Chara, Suter, Pietroangelo, Kieth, Doughty, etc. Are all better. I'm sure I could come up with at least 4 or 5 more before I got to Subban if I had the time/care.
Subban is good, the best he is not. And while he may be on the Olympic team, he's not a lock. (I'm not big on Letang either).
I'm taking Patrick Sharp, at very least as a backup option in case somebody gets hurt.
After going without much in the way of points for the first 5 or 6 games he now has 16 points in 18 games, and brings a ton of intangibles to the game.
Seabrook needs to be on the team. A blueline made up of offensive defenceman is great for an all star game, but for something like the Olympics you need more guys like Seabrook.
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I'm taking Patrick Sharp, at very least as a backup option in case somebody gets hurt.
After going without much in the way of points for the first 5 or 6 games he now has 16 points in 18 games, and brings a ton of intangibles to the game.
No way a player like Hall makes it over Sharp.
Agreed. You want the 13th forward to be a flexible player who can fit in a lot of roles. That describes Sharp to a tee, and Hall not at all.
Seabrook needs to be on the team. A blueline made up of offensive defenceman is great for an all star game, but for something like the Olympics you need more guys like Seabrook.
While it would be nice to have a little bit more grit on the LH pairing, it's not like the offensive defensemen are lacking defensively. Especially with the likes of Weber, Pietrangelo and Bouwmeester.
Locks on the team: Weber, Doughty, Keith and Pietrangelo..... basically in that order.
So Keith (+3) gets to bring along Seabrook. (+4) (makes sense Seabrook might make it on his own especially is one of the big 4 get hurt)
and Pietroangelo (+6) brings along Bouwmeester (+8)
But Doughty (+2) does not get to bring along Regehr (+4)?
If Regehr's mobility disqualifies him then Bouwmeester's total lack of ever winning or excelling in important games takes him off the list.
Regehr /Doughty won 4 straight in the playoffs over Alex Pietrangelo/Bouwmeester.
Phanuef (+9) the clear cut #1 on a top 8 team gets no consideration?
Where would Bouwmeester rank if he was not Pietrangelo's partner? Would he be in the top 12 based on his play on the 2012-13 Flames? Did he get that much better after leaving the Flames. Is he a guy you want out against Ovechkin or the Sedin's in the Olympics? or Backes /kane? He played against these guys as a Flame and they almost always won.
While it would be nice to have a little bit more grit on the LH pairing, it's not like the offensive defensemen are lacking defensively. Especially with the likes of Weber, Pietrangelo and Bouwmeester.
I agree with that, especially Weber, but they need at least a couple guys that are strictly shut down defencemen. There should be a player like Girardi or Seabrook on the third pairing with lots of PK time.
Whose spot does he take? Doughty's, Pietrangelo's, or Weber's? It seems to me that Doughty is the possibility and I'm taking DD over PK.
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Too much skill players and not enough grind, this isn't a tournament won on paper but one that has to yield as a team and fill out all roles. If Weber gets hurt in the games then I see no one on that list that could step in his shoes and kill minutes on the PK or shutdown minutes in the game. Seabrook needs to be there.
You don't pick a team based on the possible future scenario that a particular player might get hurt. Also since when is Weber injury-prone?
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I think Benn should be there.
I'm a bit biased being a Benn fan, but I think he should be a lock given his natural LW-ness and two way game but that doesn't seem to be a consensus opinion.
I'm going to assume you meant to swap Bouw and AP there. You still have Weber playing his wrong side on the top pairing. I just don't see any way that the top pairing for us isn't Keith / Doughty. Keith's the best left handed D we have, he's going to be playing his natural side on the top pairing. You could do Keith / Weber, but I just like DD's versatility in so far as the variety of ways he can get the puck up ice.
I'm going to assume you meant to swap Bouw and AP there. You still have Weber playing his wrong side on the top pairing. I just don't see any way that the top pairing for us isn't Keith / Doughty. Keith's the best left handed D we have, he's going to be playing his natural side on the top pairing. You could do Keith / Weber, but I just like DD's versatility in so far as the variety of ways he can get the puck up ice.
I have no idea which guy plays which side. Just picked seven defensemen.
Basically, you can throw out the notion of 1st line, 2nd line, etc for Team Canada. Babcock is going to try to get chemistry from all 4 lines and then whomever is going good gets ice time. Babcock may line match if you have last change or put out the Toews, Bergeron line to win an important defensive zone face off etc.
Too much talent on all the lines to deem them 4th line or 1st line.
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Its bad enough when people whine about the way lines are typed out in the GDT threads but to do it in the Olympic thread where the notion of a 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th line etc. is pretty much non-existant is ridiculous.
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Basically, you can throw out the notion of 1st line, 2nd line, etc for Team Canada. Babcock is going to try to get chemistry from all 4 lines and then whomever is going good gets ice time. Babcock may line match if you have last change or put out the Toews, Bergeron line to win an important defensive zone face off etc.
Too much talent on all the lines to deem them 4th line or 1st line.
Yep.
Basically all you can go with now is that Toews-Bergeron will do most of the PKing and playing against other teams top line and Crosby will be getting first line PP time. Outside of that trying to fit what line or potential line would be 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th is stupid and a useless endevor because those labels don't fit for a Team Canada team especially in a short tournament like this.
Basically all you can go with now is that Toews-Bergeron will do most of the PKing and playing against other teams top line and Crosby will be getting first line PP time. Outside of that trying to fit what line or potential line would be 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th is stupid and a useless endevor because those labels don't fit for a Team Canada team especially in a short tournament like this.
I guess you're right, it's still weird to see it typed like that. I just can't see Toews on the wing though, he's one of the best faceoff guys in the NHL.
