Calgarypuck Forums - The Unofficial Calgary Flames Fan Community

Go Back   Calgarypuck Forums - The Unofficial Calgary Flames Fan Community > Main Forums > The Off Topic Forum
Register Forum Rules FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 08-22-2013, 10:32 AM   #61
puckluck2
Lifetime Suspension
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by valo403 View Post
Are you being intentionally dense?

My point, and it was pretty clear, is that your position that a physical response is justified simply because someone shoves is idiotic. You talk about defending yourself, when the fact is that you don't care about defending yourself at all, you care about acting like a tough guy. Nobody has the right to hit anyone for any reason beyond defending themselves, including feeling that your pride has been damaged by being shoved by an overweight woman in her 50's. Keep up with that attitude and see where it gets you.
Thanks, I definitely will. Don't need no advice from you, that's forsure.
puckluck2 is offline  
Old 08-22-2013, 10:32 AM   #62
GreatWhiteEbola
First Line Centre
 
GreatWhiteEbola's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Calgary, Alberta
Exp:
Default

Could people leash their kids on the paths?
__________________

GreatWhiteEbola is offline  
Old 08-22-2013, 10:39 AM   #63
Senator Clay Davis
Franchise Player
 
Senator Clay Davis's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Maryland State House, Annapolis
Exp:
Default

Haha that reminds me when I was living in Victoria I saw a guy walking around with his kid on a leash. I must have done a quintuple take on that one but yeah, the kid was leashed up like a dog (the leash was around his stomach, not his neck). One of the funniest things I've seen.
__________________
"Think I'm gonna be the scapegoat for the whole damn machine? Sheeee......."
Senator Clay Davis is offline  
Old 08-22-2013, 10:40 AM   #64
united
#1 Goaltender
 
united's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by valo403 View Post
I don't know if you actually act in real life the way that you portray yourself here at times, but if so I won't be the least bit surprised when things take a bad turn for you. Justify it all you want, but if you were to shove some old woman and she hit the deck you can be damn sure you're the one who'd end up in cuffs.
Total Posts: 4,451
Posts Per Day: 10.89
Find all posts by puckluck2
Find all threads started by puckluck2

...unless there's old women in his basement suite.
__________________
"I think the eye test is still good, but analytics can sure give you confirmation: what you see...is that what you really believe?"
Scotty Bowman, 0 NHL games played
united is offline  
Old 08-22-2013, 10:45 AM   #65
kipperfan
Franchise Player
 
kipperfan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Brisbane, Australia
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by puckluck2 View Post
Yep, if a woman shoves me I'll shove her back at least. You sound like a sexist.
So, while we're on the subject, where do you draw the line on your search for vengence? What if a 8 year old child "shoves" you, are you going to "shove" them back? If the anwser is no, then what about a 10 year old kid? 12 years old? 14? 16? Because really there isn't a ton of difference, most women are going to be significantly smaller and weaker then a man, just like a boy would.

Let's take it another direction, what if you were the guy filming this and decided to "shove" the old gal and she fell and broke her tailbone. Would you feel good about maiming an old lady? You realize she'd probably never walk properly again in her life, right? But to quote you "it would be worth it to me".

I love "men" that are proud of the fact they would hit a women in response to being hit first because "If I didn't, I would be a sexist!". Just classic, classic stuff.
__________________
"Man, so long as he remains free, has no more constant and agonizing anxiety than to find, as quickly as possible, someone to worship."

Fyodor Dostoevsky - The Brothers Karamazov
kipperfan is offline  
The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to kipperfan For This Useful Post:
Old 08-22-2013, 10:50 AM   #66
Ark2
Franchise Player
 
Ark2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Exp:
Default

I don't understand comments like "there's no reason to ever hit a woman." Why not just say there is no reason to hit someone period, and leave it at that? Don't see why this has to become a gender thing.
Ark2 is offline  
The Following 7 Users Say Thank You to Ark2 For This Useful Post:
Old 08-22-2013, 10:55 AM   #67
puckluck2
Lifetime Suspension
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by kipperfan View Post
So, while we're on the subject, where do you draw the line on your search for vengence? What if a 8 year old child "shoves" you, are you going to "shove" them back? If the anwser is no, then what about a 10 year old kid? 12 years old? 14? 16? Because really there isn't a ton of difference, most women are going to be significantly smaller and weaker then a man, just like a boy would.

Let's take it another direction, what if you were the guy filming this and decided to "shove" the old gal and she fell and broke her tailbone. Would you feel good about maiming an old lady? You realize she'd probably never walk properly again in her life, right? But to quote you "it would be worth it to me".

I love "men" that are proud of the fact they would hit a women in response to being hit first because "If I didn't, I would be a sexist!". Just classic, classic stuff.
You're comparing a child with a fully grown woman? No, I wouldn't hit a child who hit me because they don't know better.

But if a fully grown woman tells me to go back to my country and then initiates contact then she's going to end up on her behind. If she gets injured then she brought that on herself.

I'd never hit a woman or man first without them laying their hands on me. Nothing to do with her being a woman. Has everything to do with being told to leave my own country then being assaulted.
puckluck2 is offline  
Old 08-22-2013, 10:58 AM   #68
valo403
Franchise Player
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by puckluck2 View Post
You're comparing a child with a fully grown woman? No, I wouldn't hit a child who hit me because they don't know better.

But if a fully grown woman tells me to go back to my country and then initiates contact then she's going to end up on her behind. If she gets injured then she brought that on herself.

I'd never hit a woman or man first without them laying their hands on me. Nothing to do with her being a woman. Has everything to do with being told to leave my own country then being assaulted.
Enjoy the cuffs. You don't get to respond to an assault with a free pass to an assault of your own. Leave it to you to make a clear racist the second most pathetic person in the thread.
__________________
When you do a signature and don't attribute it to anyone, it's yours. - Vulcan
valo403 is offline  
The Following 7 Users Say Thank You to valo403 For This Useful Post:
Old 08-22-2013, 11:08 AM   #69
puckluck2
Lifetime Suspension
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by valo403 View Post
Enjoy the cuffs. You don't get to respond to an assault with a free pass to an assault of your own. Leave it to you to make a clear racist the second most pathetic person in the thread.
In your opinion of course. To me the pathetic people are the ones that never called out the woman for laying her hands on the man.

Also embarrassing how most are calling out the guy filming the fat whale instead of the fat whale being a racist pig who assaulted the man who did absolutely nothing wrong. Pathetic indeed.
puckluck2 is offline  
Old 08-22-2013, 11:09 AM   #70
Rapidfire999
Lifetime Suspension
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Exp:
Default

Meh, it all depends on the circumstances.. If she just pushed me I don't think I would do anything back. If she pushes me and then grabs a weapon I will be fighting back for sure.

FYI.. I've never ever hit a woman or child.
Rapidfire999 is offline  
Old 08-22-2013, 11:14 AM   #71
CaptainCrunch
Norm!
 
CaptainCrunch's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Exp:
Default

Just because some middle aged woman puts her hands on you and says something racist really dosen't mean that you can get all up in her grill and shove her down.

A cop is going to look at some young (I'm assuming young) bigger male who shoved over a lady and pretty much make the decision to at least charge you with assault.

A judge will look at the excuse that she yelled something racist and put her hands on me so I shoved her on her a$$ and laugh.

Plus it opens the way for a law suit when she complains that the shove caused grievous soft body tissue damage, post traumatic stress disorder, fear of strangers, fear of imigrants, the inability to sit on a toilet, the inability to work due to migranes and flashbacks and award her several 100's or thousands of your dollars.

Sure, if someone's a threat and has put you in physical danger, go nuts in terms of defending yourself, but shoving a old hag bonehead. that's just silly.

Sticks and stones and all that.
__________________
My name is Ozymandias, King of Kings;

Look on my Works, ye Mighty, and despair!
CaptainCrunch is offline  
The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to CaptainCrunch For This Useful Post:
Old 08-22-2013, 11:19 AM   #72
valo403
Franchise Player
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by puckluck2 View Post
In your opinion of course. To me the pathetic people are the ones that never called out the woman for laying her hands on the man.

Also embarrassing how most are calling out the guy filming the fat whale instead of the fat whale being a racist pig who assaulted the man who did absolutely nothing wrong. Pathetic indeed.
No that's really the opinion of most people. You have a unique skill of taking that title in pretty much every thread.

You don't get to hit people just because they hit you, even if they called you a bad name. This is something you learn as a child, or at least should have learned as a child. Would your parents be proud of you if you knocked that woman to the ground? Seriously, that's something a poorly adjusted 16 year old would do. That woman is disgusting on a number of levels, and she has no business getting physical, so why would you want to drop even lower than her?
__________________
When you do a signature and don't attribute it to anyone, it's yours. - Vulcan
valo403 is offline  
Old 08-22-2013, 11:21 AM   #73
TheyCallMeBruce
Likes Cartoons
 
TheyCallMeBruce's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Exp:
Default

The real question here is: How many old racist hags can you beat up before they overwhelm you?

I'd put myself at 4 or 5.
TheyCallMeBruce is offline  
The Following 14 Users Say Thank You to TheyCallMeBruce For This Useful Post:
Old 08-22-2013, 11:25 AM   #74
corporatejay
Franchise Player
 
corporatejay's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Exp:
Default

Also, I would think that there is a proportional force argument here and a woman shoving you once and walking away doesn't necessitate you drilling her in the nose.

Now if she can over and started hitting you and wouldn't stop and you pushed her away and she fell down, that's a different story. No one is suggesting you should be allowed to be assaulted because it's a woman.

What they are saying is that being pushed gingerly by an old lady who then leaves you alone is not reason to hit her back.

To be clear, the same could be said about a male. You're basically only allowed to defend yourself with necessary force, not what you think they deserve.
__________________
corporatejay is offline  
Old 08-22-2013, 11:32 AM   #75
longsuffering
First Line Centre
 
longsuffering's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by puckluck2 View Post

I'd never hit a woman or man first without them laying their hands on me.
So tell us about all the women you've hit tough guy. What did they do to deserve it? Did you feel strong and virile after you struck them?
longsuffering is offline  
Old 08-22-2013, 11:34 AM   #76
Ped
Franchise Player
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Ontario
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by puckluck2 View Post
Also embarrassing how most are calling out the guy filming the fat whale instead of the fat whale being a racist pig who assaulted the man who did absolutely nothing wrong. Pathetic indeed.
That right there says more about your attitude toward other people than most people probably want to know.

Bringing up someone's looks is always the hallmark of a real winner.
Ped is offline  
The Following 5 Users Say Thank You to Ped For This Useful Post:
Old 08-22-2013, 11:37 AM   #77
The Yen Man
Franchise Player
 
The Yen Man's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary
Exp:
Default

Yah, I would never go and shove her back, just as I would not shove some old guy, even if he was being racist to me and tried shoving me away.

I would, however, not go nice with my verbal insults back to her. I've always loved it when someone used the "go back to China" insult on me, because it pretty much gives me free reign to belittle them. It's such a lame insult, because unless you're First Nations, that insult holds no water whatsoever. And I make sure I point how just how stupid they are to use it by laughing in their face.
The Yen Man is offline  
Old 08-22-2013, 11:49 AM   #78
Inglewood Jack
#1 Goaltender
 
Inglewood Jack's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Yen Man View Post
Yah, I would never go and shove her back, just as I would not shove some old guy, even if he was being racist to me and tried shoving me away.

I would, however, not go nice with my verbal insults back to her. I've always loved it when someone used the "go back to China" insult on me, because it pretty much gives me free reign to belittle them. It's such a lame insult, because unless you're First Nations, that insult holds no water whatsoever. And I make sure I point how just how stupid they are to use it by laughing in their face.
even if someone is native, can't you just say "go back to South Africa, immigrant!"...that technically should work in all situations.
Inglewood Jack is offline  
Old 08-22-2013, 12:01 PM   #79
Nage Waza
Offered up a bag of cans for a custom user title
 
Nage Waza's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Westside
Exp:
Default

For starters, that lady would easily punch out Puckluck. He may try to punch her in the face, I doubt it would land. She would spank his puny rear all the way off the bike path. That lady looked like Greg 'the Hammer' Valentine's sister.

Secondly, I didn't think Puckluck left his parent's basement. There is no chance of his fantasy coming true.
Nage Waza is offline  
Old 08-22-2013, 12:10 PM   #80
ssjshmo
Scoring Winger
 
ssjshmo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Calgary
Exp:
Default

Metro picked up on this. Gaining stream?
http://metronews.ca/news/calgary/774...cist-comments/
ssjshmo is offline  
Closed Thread


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 01:56 AM.

Calgary Flames
2024-25




Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright Calgarypuck 2021 | See Our Privacy Policy