[Rumour] Roger Millions hints Cammalleri asked for trade [MRG]

[gunnner]

Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm

Honestly, if that is all that's being offered I'd try to convince Mike to be a leader on a young team that isn't going to win much, play his heart out and promise him you'll flip him to a better team towards the 2014 trade deadline... where you're sure to get more then that for him.

Really? How much more than a first do you get for Cammi considering what Jay-bo brought back. Just my opinion, but based on how excited everyone around here is on the 10-30 ranked prospect, I think if Ottawa offers a 1st and 4th (to replace the one we gave to florida), you take it.

[MrMastodonFarm]

Originally Posted by gunnner

Really? How much more than a first do you get for Tanguay considering what Jay-bo brought back. Just my opinion, but based on how excited everyone around here is on the 10-30 ranked prospect, I think if Ottawa offers a 1st and 4th (to replace the one we gave to florida), you take it.

http://forum.calgarypuck.com/showpos...5&postcount=39

[FlamesAddiction]

There is also the possibility of seeing what other teams want to get rid of a bad contract and hope that a change of scenery works out.

Some people have speculated that Buffalo might trade Myers for a package that included Cammalleri. Personally, I think it is too early to give up on Myers, but I would jump on it if it was a possibility.

[gunnner]

Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm

Oops, I totally read your post wrong. I thought you said 4th round pick, not 4th, 1st round pick.

Ahhh, there we go. Now I can stop scratching my head. It was starting to bleed a little

[T@T]

Keep him till the deadline, Cammy has millions of reasons to have a great year.

[nik-]

Originally Posted by zukes

Trade him and Tanguay. Freakin' crybabies (if true).

"Wahh, I am overpaid for what I provide, trade me to a contender where I can coast on the 3rd line"

These guys could do a lot more for themselves (and the team) by having a good start to the year, leading the younger guys by example, racking up some points (someone has to score), and then get traded at the deadline as some of the AHL talent will have seasoned by then and can come up and fill in for the departed guys.

This is such a stupid post.

Cammelleri is obviously very competitive and in the latter half of his career. He wants a chance to win, not play on a bottom feeder while they rebuild.

[Roof-Daddy]

Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm

Islanders, Blue Jackets?

Oilers jokes aside, those are two of the teams that popped directly into my head when thinking of that scenario.

Bobrovski takes a step back, or the Isles fail to properly replace Nabakov and that could be all it would take.

[Wolven]

Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm

Islanders, Blue Jackets?

Blue Jackets and Predators would be my first thoughts. Islanders if they get approval to spend more (or they resolve the DiPietro situation to make room in their internal cap). Sabres are another good choice for a team that could boom or bust with Cammi.

[Hockeyguy15]

Since it isn't my money...DiPietro, Reinhart, 15th overall pick for Cammy.

[kyuss275]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

To be fair, it's a loaded question if someone truly expect an hoenst answer.

No one "wants" to be part of a rebuilding team and likely write their ticket to an April golf vacation. Personally, I would question the motive of any player in the latter part of their prime if they want to be part of a rebuilding team.

Asking if he would like it, isn't quite the same as asking if he is willing to stick around and do his part.

I totaly agree that it was a "loaded question". The tone in his voice and the way he answered the questions made it really seem like if they can not compete for a playoff spot soon he rather not be around. Ican't blame him for that.

Rhetts just after the trade deadline said it best when he said that most 30+ veterans that can still play in the top 6 F or top 4 D want nothing to do with a rebuild. He went on to say that the flames will have a tough time getting "real" top 6 veteran players to come into Calgary and help mentor.


As for what to do with Cammi, trade him at the deadline. I am not so worried about him as much as Tanguay only because it is a contract year for Cammi. Cammi will play hard for future $'s and can be traded at the deadline. It is very imperative to trade Tanguay now. You don't want 2 veterans in your top 6 wanting out.

[JJsChaos]

If Cammi, and this goes for any player, doesn't want to play here then get out! We have lots of younger players that need positive leadership around them during this rebuild. Anyone with have a brain knows we are going to suck next year. However, we need a positive locker room with players that are buying in to the new movement.

[SuperMatt18]

Bluejackets just added Gaborik so don't see Cammy as a fit their anymore.

Islanders could make sense if they could actually spend the money.

Ottawa probably makes the most sense. They could use another top 6 scoring winger for sure, and have the youth depth to be able to make the deal.

[nik-]

Originally Posted by Hockeyguy15

Since it isn't my money...DiPietro, Reinhart, 15th overall pick for Cammy.

We didn't eat any of Bouwmeester's salary when there were indications that it would have increased the return (at least from Detroit) ... I don't think eating salary or trading for a buyout is ever in the cards for the Flames.

[Yoho]

Possible additional "ammo" for a trade up to #4 this draft?

[Huntingwhale]

I'm not surprised Cammy wants out. People seem to forget that this is a contract year for him. He has a much better chance of cashing in if he plays on a strong team where he can put up good numbers. IMO if he stays in Calgary, he will have lower points totals and will lose out on some money in the long run.

Having said that, we do need a veteran presence in the top 6. If I was Feaster I'd tell him to hold tight until the deadline. Tell him he will have every chance to perform on the top line all season, and then he will trade him for a good return when the time is right.

[Hockeyguy15]

Originally Posted by nik-

We didn't eat any of Bouwmeester's salary when there were indications that it would have increased the return (at least from Detroit) ... I don't think eating salary or trading for a buyout is ever in the cards for the Flames.

I know, but like I said it isn't my money so it's easy for me to throw it around.

Basically you take on DiPietro's contract for the first round pick and swap Cammy for Reinhart. Sure it might be a steep price but I bet you the Islanders would pull the trigger on it.

[zukes]

Originally Posted by nik-

This is such a stupid post.

Cammelleri is obviously very competitive and in the latter half of his career. He wants a chance to win, not play on a bottom feeder while they rebuild.

Thanks for calling me stupid. This place is going downhill big time.

Read my post again, I said he should go out and make himself more marketable beofre saying he wants to play for a winner.

If you are a contending team, do you pay the guy we saw last year $6 million? Do you trade anything at all of value?

He goes out, tears it up, and the team is out of it, then sure, ask to be traded. It makes him more desireable, allows teams to see that he still has it, also allows him to see who is a contender. In this league, teams can go from top of the heap to non contender quickly. See Vancouver, or Carolina or Tampa.

Thanks again for calling me stupid.

[ricardodw]

Originally Posted by gunnner

Really? How much more than a first do you get for Tanguay considering what Jay-bo brought back. Just my opinion, but based on how excited everyone around here is on the 10-30 ranked prospect, I think if Ottawa offers a 1st and 4th (to replace the one we gave to florida), you take it.

are you talking about Tanguay getting a 1st????


Cammalleri , only one year on his contract, does have some value, If we were able to get a 1st for him it would be great.

If we got any return at all for Tanguay it would be great

If we ended up with Hudler and Baertschi as our only smurfs the team will be better and harder to play against. I would rather have Cammalleri than Hudler but with Hudler having 3 more overpaid years rather than 1 there would be no chance to get a first rounder for Hudler.


Baertschi - Backlund - Clarkson
Glencross-Monahan-Hudler
Horak-Knight-Stempniak

spare parts for the top 9 Stajan and Rienhart.


It is a better top 9 than we had last year. They would be harder to play against

If Cammalleri wants out I would can imagine his logic.

His year-end evaluation discussion might go like:

You want me to go out and play head to head with Kopitar and Getzlaff and Kouivu, and Thornton ??? You understand they are 5-6 inches taller and 30-40 pounds heavier? I can skate with these guys but what result do you expect when I catch up to them? or they catch up to me? I might not be suited for the role you want me to play.

[burn_this_city]

Originally Posted by nik-

This is such a stupid post.

Cammelleri is obviously very competitive and in the latter half of his career. He wants a chance to win, not play on a bottom feeder while they rebuild.

Big deal, he's got one year left with a substantial salary. It's not like he has 5 years left trapped in the basement with Calgary.

[TheGrimm]

I am not worried at all about Cammi playing well for Calgary this year if he doesn't get traded. It's in his best interest as well as it's a contract year and the better he plays the more likely he is able to be traded and to a contender at that.

The question I have is whether Calgary is able to trade him but keep some of his cap hit without paying out actual dollars? Can that be done? Ideally we would trade him but keep 3 million in cap hit but pay nothing out. That should generate a bit of extra interest and return in him.

I am hoping if he goes, it's for a prospect at this point though, as we are getting dangerously close to fielding a record settingly bad team if we keep losing vets.