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Zevo · 04-26-2013, 04:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Textcritic

I actually haven't seen it myself. Is there a link to it somewhere? Was it on SN or on the FAN?

I agree. Based on kyuss275's description above, that is exactly how all Flames management should react to comparisons with the Oilers.

It was on SN after the first period. Millions was funny, you could see him kind of trying not to smile after he asked the question.

metroneck · 04-26-2013, 06:48 AM

Can anyone please paraphrase the Feaster's Oil Change comment?

stignasty · 04-26-2013, 06:56 AM

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Originally Posted by metroneck

Can anyone please paraphrase the Feaster's Oil Change comment?

Roger Millions referred to the rebuild as an "Oil change."

Jay gave him an "are you kidding?" look and replied, ""I might throw up."

After Millions tried to skate away from it, Jay said, "That hurt Rog."

Coach · 04-26-2013, 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Flame Of Liberty

...as opposed to us? Edmonton is on a whole another level but I don't see how we're better managed/coached than Carolina; Tampa and Colorado need to fix their coaching and honestly does it take much to match the Feaster/Hartley combo? I don't think it does, actually I think Carolina and Tampa are our comparables right now.

You mean the lineups of both Tampa and Carolina that feature some of the best players in the game? Tampa with two Art Ross candidates and Carolina with the Staals, skinner, Semin etc... That are somehow below us in the standings? Yeah I think our coaching has done alright with what we have and the fact that the 4 teams mentioned above are below us in the standings should be an absolute embarrassment for those teams.

Bingo · 04-26-2013, 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Dajazz

Backlund is for real, the kid is all over the ice - forecheck, backcheck, decent in the f/o circle and man does he works hard. Was only credited for one takeaway but his stick is knocking pucks away all the time.

I think him and Bärtschi are going to be good for us for a very long time.

And given where the Flames are I hope they pay attention to Backlund's development curve to avoid mistakes.

The guy was all but given up on by most of the media and a very large percentage of fans on this site.

Not every development path is straight line from prospect to impact player.

Development will only be a shade behind drafting in importance in the next 36 months

BigFlameDog · 04-26-2013, 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Hockey_Ninja

Not really. According to NHL.com he's 9th:

Only 275 points behind Streit!

I gotta admit, I did not realize Streit was that kind of points producer.....

kyuss275 · 04-26-2013, 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Zevo

The Mactavish GM press conference alone was more of a debacle than anything Feaster has done this year.

I actually liked Feasters reaction to the oil change comment. I though it was hilarious for all the right reasons. Exactly the way I want a Calgary GM to react when somebody compares them to the Oilers.

I don't see it that way. Feaster is not a good GM, and is in the group of "inept GM's". To me if you are in that group, there is no "better inept GM", there is just "inept GM's". Anybody in that group should hang their head down from embarrassment.

Geeoff · 04-26-2013, 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Flame Of Liberty

Which means that a bunch teams we're competing with will add a same caliber, solid player to their prospect pool already deeper than ours, no? That's why drafting higher than them is so crucial.

No one's crapping their pants, but drafting top 3 this year was THE chance for us to close the gap, rather than simply maintaining it (even that is a big if).

To be fair, we do have two more first rounders than any of the other teams at the bottom.

BigFlameDog · 04-26-2013, 08:55 AM

Was there a single incident that got Jackman fired up? I didn't have time to look into it that closely. Was it just Reaves being a general pain the entire game and over celebrating?

calumniate · 04-26-2013, 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by BigFlameDog

Was there a single incident that got Jackman fired up? I didn't have time to look into it that closely. Was it just Reaves being a general pain the entire game and over celebrating?

I think he got clipped by another player just before, then went up to the wrong guy and got beat down

BigFlameDog · 04-26-2013, 09:11 AM

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I think he got clipped by another player just before, then went up to the wrong guy and got beat down

Lol, I hope that wasn't it.....if he got that confused he shouldn't be fighting.

puckluck2 · 04-26-2013, 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by calumniate

I think he got clipped by another player just before, then went up to the wrong guy and got beat down

That's not why he was pissed. Reaves knocked Jackman down near the bench earlier while he was going for a line change.

kyuss275 · 04-26-2013, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by BigFlameDog

Lol, I hope that wasn't it.....if he got that confused he shouldn't be fighting.

I don't think he was confused. It looked like he got up and went after the first person he saw, it just happened to be Reaves. Or he saw Reaves # after he went down, and used it as an excuse to go after him. Either way he lost the fight.

mykalberta · 04-26-2013, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Flame Of Liberty

Blows me away that people think this team doesn't desperately need a top 3-4 pick with a game breaking potential and say that picking 7-8 or 9 is no big deal.

The draft in the NHL is so much of a crap shoot that with the exception of maybe 10 players in the last 10 years, you can find those players in almost any round of the draft if your scouts are good enough and you get lucky enough.

Going by that logic the Oilers have alot of "game breakers" and yet it hasnt helped them a whole lot.

The simple fact is we got beat by a team that has IMO unquestionably the best coach in the NHL.

Robbob · 04-26-2013, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Flame Of Liberty
Which means that a bunch teams we're competing with will add a same caliber, solid player to their prospect pool already deeper than ours, no? That's why drafting higher than them is so crucial.

No one's crapping their pants, but drafting top 3 this year was THE chance for us to close the gap, rather than simply maintaining it (even that is a big if).

Geeoff already touched on it, but the way we close the gap is drafting 3 solid players in the first round. There may be a drop between 1-3 and 4-7 players but there is even a bigger gap from first to 2nd round. How the Flames close the gap is get players with their other 2 first rounders.

GreenLantern2814 · 04-26-2013, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by moon

Not sure what this has to do with my post or why I have to say what the team could have done differently.

I don't think the team should have done anything differently and have said that before.

But that doesn't change the fact that it is more likely that the 3 are a much lower gamble than guys 4-8.

It has to do with your general attitude of 'cant believe they won they're ####ing up by winning these games and screwing themselves over in the draft'.

You sound like a kid complaining that he didnt get what he wanted for Christmas. It's not even that you're wrong, it's that you're so unflinchingly negative about a situation that has no practical solution. Nobody WANTS to draft Lindholm or Monohan over Mac, jones or Barkov. But we also realize there's no point in bitching about it because there's nothing whatsoever that can be done to change that. And we're on a two game losing streak. So. Happy day.

moon · 04-26-2013, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814

It has to do with your general attitude of 'cant believe they won they're ####ing up by winning these games and screwing themselves over in the draft'.

You sound like a kid complaining that he didnt get what he wanted for Christmas. It's not even that you're wrong, it's that you're so unflinchingly negative about a situation that has no practical solution. Nobody WANTS to draft Lindholm or Monohan over Mac, jones or Barkov. But we also realize there's no point in bitching about it because there's nothing whatsoever that can be done to change that. And we're on a two game losing streak. So. Happy day.

I have rarely commented on it and certainly haven't been close to one of the more vocal posters when it comes to this. I don't think I have really said anything close to the phrase in quotes either. I am frustrated that we won't get a much needed top 3 pick but I also have said I have no problem, anger or hate towards what the Flames players or team is doing. They are doing exactly what they as a team should be doing.

I am not bitching about anything in this thread just pointing out that it is wrong to say there isn't a much bigger gamble drafting 6/7/8 than 1/2/3.

dying4acup · 04-26-2013, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by DeluxeMoustache

I was at Ramholt's game, saw Brent shorten the bench after one particularly goal.

It was Keenan.

PeteMoss · 04-26-2013, 01:14 PM

Reto Von Arx is a great name.

Steve Bozek · 04-26-2013, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by stignasty

Roger Millions referred to the rebuild as an "Oil change."

Jay gave him an "are you kidding?" look and replied, ""I might throw up."

After Millions tried to skate away from it, Jay said, "That hurt Rog."

This got me wondering. How many seasons has Oil Change been running - at least 2? Maybe they should change the name to "Oil Change: Groundhog Day II".