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Old 02-05-2013, 12:44 PM   #61
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Values and Cultures constantly change. Canada is ever evolving and changing. Its progress.

700 Years ago, Canadian culture was vastly different. Aboriginal culture and religion dominated the landscape.

In 50 years, Islam will dominate and shape the Canadian landscape as more Muslim immigration is allowed.
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Old 02-05-2013, 12:45 PM   #62
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Who's getting mad about it (aside from you)? I certainly haven't stooped to the level of calling anyone a "half-witted tool", anyway.

Sorry, but this sort of extremism is a problem worth discussing, and no amount of you flailing your arms about and throwing around childish insults will change that. It simply cannot continue to be taboo to criticize something that motivates people to do hateful and oppressive things in the name of the divine.
I don't think that's what anyone is taking issue with, it's that this appears to be a prime example of making a mountain out of a molehill.
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Old 02-05-2013, 12:49 PM   #63
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Values and Cultures constantly change. Canada is ever evolving and changing. Its progress.

700 Years ago, Canadian culture was vastly different. Aboriginal culture and religion dominated the landscape.

In 50 years, Islam will dominate and shape the Canadian landscape as more Muslim immigration is allowed.

In 50 years time canadian muslim kids will arrive in Mecca and try and order a bacon double cheeseburger at Mc Dicks, their parents will despair of their childrens lack of traditional values while sharing a beer over a bbq
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Old 02-05-2013, 12:52 PM   #64
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In 50 years, Islam will dominate and shape the Canadian landscape as more Muslim immigration is allowed.
Thats not accounting for the growth of athiesm and/or disintrest in religion.

I wonder what the rate of athiesm or decreased practicing is amongst the children of immigrants from religious backgrounds.
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Thankfully The hit CBC Show "Little Mosque on the Prairie" has eased me into the idea of a Muslim dominated Canada.

Especially when there are so many corrupt small town christian priests out there!
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Old 02-05-2013, 01:14 PM   #66
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I don't think that's what anyone is taking issue with, it's that this appears to be a prime example of making a mountain out of a molehill.
Well I certainly don't think that there's "Muslim Morality Police" on every street corner, so let's get that out of the way first. Nor am I a fan of blowing things out of proportion either. But one would have to have been pretty isolated from the outside world to not have heard of this sort of extremism in the past.

Typically, this sort of fundamentalist behavior exists in countries that already impose Sharia Law so it's par for the course, but the fact that this behaviour is starting to spill over into other non-Islamic countries should be a concern, even if it is down to isolated incidents.

Hell, that it exists even in Islamic countries should be concerning if you care at all about the well-being of other humans.

But ignoring it is not the answer.
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What exactly makes the Telegraph a crappy paper? Not pandering to your political views? Komsomolskaya Pravda more to your liking?

Anyways I'm willing to bet this will become a major problem in the UK/France, only a matter of time.
Ah yes, the Red Menace. That's me, downplaying the rise of religious fundamentalism. Real Karl Marx stuff.
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Old 02-05-2013, 07:23 PM   #68
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Values and Cultures constantly change. Canada is ever evolving and changing. Its progress.

700 Years ago, Canadian culture was vastly different. Aboriginal culture and religion dominated the landscape.

In 50 years, Islam will dominate and shape the Canadian landscape as more Muslim immigration is allowed.
Actually, I'm not too worried about that. In several court cases including honor killing and general female abuse the Canadian courts have come down hard on the families practicing Sharia law and their own type of religious justice. Even making public statements along the lines of 'these types of family and religious laws have no place in our free society'.

As long as we stay vigilant about it and talk about it like we would any domestic abuse or violence, we should be ok. Which is why in my first post I noticed how the biggest thing is to worry about the individuals (usually females) inside these communities and not turn a blind eye to them, rather than roaming bands of whatever. Cause that's where it starts, and that's where it will grow if we do indeed let it.

But with the cases that I have seen I have been pleasantly surprised about the Canadian justice system's hard line stance, because you usually only hear this other anti-immigration, anti-Islam, side.

While values in free society do change, they generally change towards greater freedoms and not to greater restrictions. Free society has ways of absorbing and diluting fanaticism.
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Ah yes, the Red Menace. That's me, downplaying the rise of religious fundamentalism. Real Karl Marx stuff.
Communism is basically a religion, good to see you embracing your brothers in arms. Anyone who can kick western culture in the groin is my friend!
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