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Old 02-03-2019, 10:00 PM   #7961
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didnt realize the Oilers were playing, it is always enjoyable to go to the box score and see their "potent" offense being carried by their only 2 good players. If the german gretzky or McJesus dont score, it is a blowout, if they do, they still likely lose. this is about the time of year the team gets really serious about making sure 1 dimensional Connor gets the scoring title.
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Old 02-03-2019, 11:16 PM   #7962
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3 regulation wins in their last 19 games.

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Old 02-04-2019, 06:51 AM   #7963
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It feels like they should be close to last in the league for regulation wins before OT but it's hard to find web site that breaks out wins in regulation.
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Old 02-04-2019, 07:04 AM   #7964
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Do the Flames have 3 regulation losses during that period?
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Old 02-04-2019, 07:22 AM   #7965
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It feels like they should be close to last in the league for regulation wins before OT but it's hard to find web site that breaks out wins in regulation.
Here lists record, overtime and shootout records: https://www.hockey-reference.com/lea...standings.html

If I'm doing the math right (excel is being a pain this morning) then

Chicago has 11 regulation wins;
Anaheim has 12 regulation wins;
New Jersey and Florida each have 13 regulation wins;
Detroit has 14 regulation wins;
Edmonton along with Ottawa, and the New York Rangers each have 15.

Chicago has 8 overtime victories this year (and one shootout win).


Interestingly, again if my math is right, the Flames have 29 regulation wins, which is one behind Tampa's league leading 30.
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Old 02-04-2019, 07:24 AM   #7966
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Do the Flames have 3 regulation losses during that period?
3 in the last 17 is correct. Vs Washington, Boston, and Vancouver.
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Old 02-04-2019, 07:55 AM   #7967
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It feels like they should be close to last in the league for regulation wins before OT but it's hard to find web site that breaks out wins in regulation.
https://www.scoreboard.com/en/nhl/standings/

This looks to use regulation wins for the W column.

So they are tied for 4th, with 15.

Sorry, that's 4th last. Detroit is last, with 12. Calgary has 29 in second place, behind Tampa's 30.

EDIT: whoops, missed Maritime's post. This site saves the tough math though!

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Old 02-04-2019, 08:01 AM   #7968
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https://www.scoreboard.com/en/nhl/standings/

This looks to use regulation wins for the W column.

So they are tied for 4th, with 15.

Sorry, that's 4th last. Detroit is last, with 12. Calgary has 29 in second place, behind Tampa's 30.

EDIT: whoops, missed Maritime's post. This site saves the tough math though!
That's not very good company for a team that's supposedly desperate to make the playoffs.
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Old 02-04-2019, 08:46 AM   #7969
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That's not very good company for a team that's supposedly desperate to make the playoffs.
10 minutes of no good to commemorate over 10 years of no good.

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Old 02-04-2019, 09:14 AM   #7970
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3 in the last 17 is correct. Vs Washington, Boston, and Vancouver.
Boston, Washington and ST Louis. Van was OTL. We don't need to be giving them credit for things they haven't done.

But yeah your point stands. Edmonton is NO good.
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Old 02-04-2019, 10:23 AM   #7971
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3 regulation wins in their last 19 games.

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They don’t have any OT wins in that period either.

So you can expand it to 3 regulation or overtime wins in their last 19 games.

Of their two Shootout wins, 1 of them came in a game where the Oilers tied it in the last 10 seconds of the game.

Even counting their shootout wins, they are 5-12-2 in their last 19 games.
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Old 02-04-2019, 11:10 AM   #7972
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One of the things about the trade with Carolina is that it’s the exact trade the Oilers brain trust would never make. They would over value players like Hamilton & Ferland.

For lack of a better example let’s say Nurse & Maroon. They prospectively could have actually had Hamilton if they surrendered Nurse, but they chronically overvalue & poorly evaluate players until the players have no value (Yakupov) or they can’t maximize an asset in order to meet an organizational need (Hall).

This is why they would never trade a defender like Hamilton who led this league in goals at his position because they would be blinded by their navel gazing beer goggles.

Except of course... Pronger, but then it gets back to the whole atrocious asset management.
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Old 02-04-2019, 11:20 AM   #7973
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One of the things about the trade with Carolina is that it’s the exact trade the Oilers brain trust would never make. They would over value players like Hamilton & Ferland.

For lack of a better example let’s say Nurse & Maroon. They prospectively could have actually had Hamilton if they surrendered Nurse, but they chronically overvalue & poorly evaluate players until the players have no value (Yakupov) or they can’t maximize an asset in order to meet an organizational need (Hall).

This is why they would never trade a defender like Hamilton who led this league in goals at his position because they would be blinded by their navel gazing beer goggles.

Except of course... Pronger, but then it gets back to the whole atrocious asset management.
There are real life examples already. When Seth Jones was traded for R. Johanson. It was rumored that the Oilers were in on it but needed to add (draft pick) to RNH to make it work. They believed RNH was better than Johanson.

The other one was the Hamilton trade. Boston wanted a 1st and Nurse for Hamilton. Chiarelli said no and he would just offer sheet Hamilton. Instead they ended up with Griffin Reinhart for that 16th and 33rd pick.

How much better would they be if their back end had Hamilton and Jones. Hall would have been kept as a there would not have been a need to trade for Larsson.

Granted not even those trades cold save the Oilers. Nothing can.
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After yesterday's game

18-2019 29 26 14 11 0 2 814 75 2.84 .908 3 1,587

3 years at 4.5 million for .908 (even accounting for his Vezina like 10 day streak) and declining fast

.908 is the exact same as Talbot in 2017-18, who supposedly has become a failure of a goalie and the reason why the Oilers missed the playoffs last year...

For comparison, Karri Ramo was above .908 in all 3 years he was with the Flames. Apparently in Oilers land this level of goaltending is worth 4.5 million x 3

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Old 02-04-2019, 11:50 AM   #7975
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Even more puzzling is that they knew they were going to fire their GM so now the incoming GM is saddled with the deal. Wouldn't they want the new GM to decide their goal tending situation? This reaffirms to me that MacT and Lowe are still running things behind the scenes as this contract has their fingers all over it.
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Old 02-04-2019, 11:59 AM   #7976
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Got a chuckle from the Edmonton media coverage after the weekend

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Old 02-04-2019, 12:42 PM   #7977
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One of the things about the trade with Carolina is that it’s the exact trade the Oilers brain trust would never make. They would over value players like Hamilton & Ferland.

For lack of a better example let’s say Nurse & Maroon. They prospectively could have actually had Hamilton if they surrendered Nurse, but they chronically overvalue & poorly evaluate players until the players have no value (Yakupov) or they can’t maximize an asset in order to meet an organizational need (Hall).

This is why they would never trade a defender like Hamilton who led this league in goals at his position because they would be blinded by their navel gazing beer goggles.

Except of course... Pronger, but then it gets back to the whole atrocious asset management.

In what sense? They traded Hall for Larsson.
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Old 02-04-2019, 01:01 PM   #7978
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After yesterday's game

18-2019 29 26 14 11 0 2 814 75 2.84 .908 3 1,587

3 years at 4.5 million for .908 (even accounting for his Vezina like 10 day streak) and declining fast

.908 is the exact same as Talbot in 2017-18, who supposedly has become a failure of a goalie and the reason why the Oilers missed the playoffs last year...

For comparison, Karri Ramo was above .908 in all 3 years he was with the Flames. Apparently in Oilers land this level of goaltending is worth 4.5 million x 3

It's seems to me that they (Chia) overvalue (over pay) every contract by about 1.5 million.


McDavid 11 million
Draisaitl 7 million
Lucic 4.5 million
Russell 2.5 million
Koskinen 3 million
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Old 02-04-2019, 01:08 PM   #7979
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It's seems to me that they (Chia) overvalue (over pay) every contract by about 1.5 million.


McDavid 11 million
Draisaitl 7 million
Lucic 4.5 million
Russell 2.5 million
Koskinen 3 million
... maybe that's the Edmonton/"something in the water"/Kevin Lowe tax that the agents insist on.
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I'm just so confused about how Edmonton loses in OT with all the offensive talent they have.

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