07-12-2022, 12:42 PM
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#7841
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: SW Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nik-
I mean they may bin me, but that doesn't change the fact that you're essentially spinning 180 on your heals, frothing at the mouth basically ####ting all over the player for his personal decision, his RIGHT, to go where he wants. Basically because you're too naive to separate fluff answers to the media from reality like you've never witnessed any players in free agency ever.
You are unstable in this thread..
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And you are nothing but a troll trying to stir the pot. You add nothing to this board, that is all you do. You trying to make a post like you follow the Flames is comical, look at your history. You are only here because people are in edge and you want to see how far you can push it. How in F you were ever unbanned is a damn mystery, all you here for is to create chaos. Go away.
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07-12-2022, 12:42 PM
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#7842
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Franchise Player
Join Date: May 2016
Location: ATCO Field, Section 201
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I really don't think that JG walking would be cripple the Flames for years and years. It would be a set back for sure. But not the end of the team forever.
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07-12-2022, 12:42 PM
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#7843
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Calgary - Transplanted Manitoban
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Originally Posted by Displaced Flames fan
All of these things could be true:
- Gaudreau loves Calgary and being a Flame
- Gaudreau would love to stay
- Gaudreau is blown away by Calgary's offer
- Gaudreau chooses to leave
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As someone with young kids, I do understand the pull of being near family when a baby comes. I will totally understand if Philly or the Devils are the choice, as raising Johnny Jr. with grandma and grandpa (on both sides of the family) close is important.
if he signs with a team outside of that region, I wont get it at all.
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07-12-2022, 12:43 PM
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#7844
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dissentowner
And you are nothing but a troll trying to stir the pot. You add nothing to this board, that is all you do. You trying to make a list like you follow the Flames is comical, look at your history. You are only here because people are in edge and you want to see how far you can push it. How in F you were ever unbanned is a damn mystery, all you here for is to create chaos. Go away.
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Yes yes yes, you've given this speech before.
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Originally Posted by MisterJoji
Johnny eats garbage and isn’t 100% committed.
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07-12-2022, 12:43 PM
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#7845
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dissentowner
Whatever, it doesn't matter, he is signing here anyhow. I am simply saying it is unrealistic to not expect people to feel bitter if he left after what was said.
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It's completely realistic. Since I'm an adult, I will wish him the best of luck and hope to meet+beat him in the finals some day.
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07-12-2022, 12:43 PM
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#7846
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheIronMaiden
I really don't think that JG walking would be cripple the Flames for years and years. It would be a set back for sure. But not the end of the team forever.
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Yeah, they’d just have to…rebuild themselves. Especially if Tkachuk walks as well.
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07-12-2022, 12:44 PM
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#7847
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: SW Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nik-
Yes yes yes, you've given this speech before. Just try not to act like a 12 year old psycho fan is all I'm saying.
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And yet you are still here. Fn mindboggling.
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07-12-2022, 12:44 PM
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#7848
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: victoria
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheIronMaiden
I really don't think that JG walking would be cripple the Flames for years and years. It would be a set back for sure. But not the end of the team forever.
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I think that all depends on if Tkachuk bails as a result of Johnny leaving. If Tkachuk says no to a long term deal cause he doesn't see the team as competitive without johnny then the team is in trouble for more than a couple years.
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07-12-2022, 12:45 PM
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#7849
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dissentowner
And yet you are still here. Fn mindboggling.
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Maybe because no one takes you seriously? Just like you shouldn't take answers about wanting to stay ahead of free agency seriously.
See? It all comes full circle. Just take a break man, this is clearly affecting you emotionally way too much.
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Originally Posted by MisterJoji
Johnny eats garbage and isn’t 100% committed.
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07-12-2022, 12:46 PM
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#7850
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Franchise Player
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I am still shocked their initial offer was 9.5 (if rumours are to be believed). Did they actually think that he is 80 percent the player that Panarin is?
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07-12-2022, 12:46 PM
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#7851
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: SW Ontario
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pace yourself guys.. we've still got like 9 hours to go until the deadline. don't over exert yourself so early on. Stay hydrated.
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07-12-2022, 12:47 PM
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#7852
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Thunder Bay Ontario
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bax
A fantastic season + another summer to negotiate a long term deal is more valuable than a first and a couple random prospects.
Sports are a unique business. There is a lot more to it than asset management.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheIronMaiden
I really don't think that JG walking would be cripple the Flames for years and years. It would be a set back for sure. But not the end of the team forever.
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They couldn't beat the team that got swept by the avs...with Gaudreau. They aren't finding an upgrade on him so they will be worse.
Losing Gaudreau won't cripple them, they might end up just missing the playoffs and drafting around 15 or so if they stay the course.
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07-12-2022, 12:47 PM
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#7853
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PeteMoss
pace yourself guys.. we've still got like 9 hours to go until the deadline. don't over exert yourself so early on. Stay hydrated.
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I've been dehydrating Gatorade for weeks and am just snorting the electrolytes. I have 840 grams left. I can go all day.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MisterJoji
Johnny eats garbage and isn’t 100% committed.
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07-12-2022, 12:48 PM
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#7854
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Incogneto
As someone with young kids, I do understand the pull of being near family when a baby comes. I will totally understand if Philly or the Devils are the choice, as raising Johnny Jr. with grandma and grandpa (on both sides of the family) close is important.
if he signs with a team outside of that region, I wont get it at all.
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Every eastern conference team, especially in the US, are much closer/faster to grandparents and other family.
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07-12-2022, 12:48 PM
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#7855
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Franchise Player
Join Date: May 2016
Location: ATCO Field, Section 201
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Moneyhands23
I think that all depends on if Tkachuk bails as a result of Johnny leaving. If Tkachuk says no to a long term deal cause he doesn't see the team as competitive without johnny then the team is in trouble for more than a couple years.
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Don't get me wrong they would be awful in 2023, that said, they still have their 1st pick, and they are moving into a cycle where prospects are ready for spots on the team.
I think with solid Goal and D, which the Flames have locked up, there is always a punchers chance.
Most teams move in cycles of being competitive and non competitive, I know that the Flames peaked fairly low in this cycle, which is a part of what is frustrating, but down turns are always going to happen, and it isn't like Gaudreau and Tkachuk have brought in an era of sustained success.
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07-12-2022, 12:49 PM
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#7856
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Badgers Nose
If he signs in the next half day.
Not sure how it’s in JG’s interest to do that. Even if the team he prefers gets his rights, more money over 7 years is better.
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It will be less money. Unless it's something really stupid. He'd need to get 12x7 to make the same same money as 8x10.5.
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07-12-2022, 12:50 PM
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#7857
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dissentowner
And yet you are still here. Fn mindboggling.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nik-
Maybe because no one takes you seriously? Just like you shouldn't take answers about wanting to stay ahead of free agency seriously.
See? It all comes full circle. Just take a break man, this is clearly affecting you emotionally way too much.
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07-12-2022, 12:50 PM
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#7858
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Aarongavey
I am still shocked their initial offer was 9.5 (if rumours are to be believed). Did they actually think that he is 80 percent the player that Panarin is?
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I don't think it was the wrong move. Makes them competitive with the extra year what his AAV would be with 7 years. Also says, 'hey, we want to build a roster around you too, so the extra money can help us build a cup-contending roster'.
What I'd heard was last summer the offer to Johnny was very underwhelming, which may have been where some damage was done.
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07-12-2022, 12:50 PM
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#7859
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Shanghai
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TheIronMaiden
I really don't think that JG walking would be cripple the Flames for years and years. It would be a set back for sure. But not the end of the team forever.
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It would primarily just suck as a fan because of how much fun and excitement Johnny brings to the team. He's a special player.
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07-12-2022, 12:51 PM
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#7860
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Franchise Player
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anyone else just not working
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