02-21-2026, 11:51 AM
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#761
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Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by White Out 403
Sad indeed to think that politics doesn't play some role in international hockey. The Summit Series was about our way of life vs there's, on and off the ice.
america has been threatening our country with annexation, tariffs, and doing real harm to our economy and our citizens. I'm sorry/not sorry if this makes you uncomfortable. Bingretzky.
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I haven't had a single comment supporting anything the US or Trump is doing.
I just like my hockey without politics mixed in, which is a choice.
Not sure why you feel the need to insult me. Says a lot about you in my mind.
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02-21-2026, 11:58 AM
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#762
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Cape Breton Island
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Originally Posted by Bingo
I haven't had a single comment supporting anything the US or Trump is doing.
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in·fer·ence
/ˈinf(ə)rən(t)s/
noun
a conclusion reached on the basis of evidence and reasoning.
"researchers are entrusted with drawing inferences from the data"
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Originally Posted by Bingo
Not sure why you feel the need to insult me. Says a lot about you in my mind.
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I removed that last part before you posted.
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02-21-2026, 11:59 AM
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#763
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by White Out 403
Sad indeed to think that politics doesn't play some role in international hockey. The Summit Series was about our way of life vs there's, on and off
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No it wasn’t
It was two teams chasing a piece of rubber
This stuff gets overstated. I understand using it to fuel your dislike for the opposing team but in the grander scheme these games do not matter.
When Canada won in 72 it wasn’t a blow to communism. It was just a game
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02-21-2026, 12:00 PM
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#764
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Cape Breton Island
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Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina
No it wasn’t
It was two teams chasing a piece of rubber
This stuff gets overstated. I understand using it to fuel your dislike for the opposing team but in the grander scheme these games do not matter.
When Canada won in 72 it wasn’t a blow to communism. It was just a game
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I'd love to hear your thoughts on the Berlin Olympics.
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02-21-2026, 12:02 PM
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#765
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Kamloops
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Our culture has embraced bizarre hyperindividualism to the point where people feel entitled enough to believe they can support Trump and a Canadian National team without a conflict. There was no such "freedom" in 72. It is not comparable that way at all.
From a player's perspective it is also very different. Does anyone expect to see Canadian players actively attempting to seriously injure their opponents tomorrow? Because that happened and was well documented in 72.
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02-21-2026, 12:03 PM
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#766
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Cape Breton Island
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Originally Posted by blender
Our culture has embraced bizarre hyperindividualism to the point where people feel entitled enough to believe they can support Trump and a Canadian National team without a conflict. There was no such "freedom" in 72. It is not comparable that way at all.
From a player's perspective it is also very different. Does anyone expect to see Canadian players actively attempting to seriously injure their opponents tomorrow? Because that happened and was well documented in 72.
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There was 3 fights in the first 9 seconds of the 4 nations final.
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02-21-2026, 12:04 PM
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#767
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That Crazy Guy at the Bus Stop
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Springfield Penitentiary
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Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina
No it wasn’t
It was two teams chasing a piece of rubber
This stuff gets overstated. I understand using it to fuel your dislike for the opposing team but in the grander scheme these games do not matter.
When Canada won in 72 it wasn’t a blow to communism. It was just a game
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I don’t know I think it kind of was a blow to the confidence of the communists. It didn’t have much to do with the fall of the Berlin wall or anything but it felt important.
1972 and 1987 and every single other international competition including the Olympics during that time were a battle between the west and the communists. And it was about proving a supremacy of one way of a life versus another.
Whether or not that’s true here perhaps is up for debate. But I don’t think it’s fair to expect anyone to stick their head in the sand and pretend like there isn’t some pretty serious threats from the United States of America to the rest of the world right now. And especially Canada.
The outcome of this hockey game isn’t gonna affect Trump’s presidency. But just like 1972 it means more because of the political climate.
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02-21-2026, 12:07 PM
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#768
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That Crazy Guy at the Bus Stop
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Springfield Penitentiary
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Originally Posted by blender
Our culture has embraced bizarre hyperindividualism to the point where people feel entitled enough to believe they can support Trump and a Canadian National team without a conflict. There was no such "freedom" in 72. It is not comparable that way at all.
From a player's perspective it is also very different. Does anyone expect to see Canadian players actively attempting to seriously injure their opponents tomorrow? Because that happened and was well documented in 72.
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I absolutely expect Matthew Tkachuk to try and injure someone tomorrow. If Crosby plays they’re going after his knee.
And who knows Tom Wilson could kill someone. The man is unhinged. But he’s our maniac and that’s what matters.
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02-21-2026, 12:07 PM
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#769
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Bingo
I haven't had a single comment supporting anything the US or Trump is doing.
I just like my hockey without politics mixed in, which is a choice.
Not sure why you feel the need to insult me. Says a lot about you in my mind.
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When you have Trumpchuk saying he'd rather visit with the Orange Rapist than winning 2 cups... that kinda changes everything.
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02-21-2026, 12:08 PM
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#770
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger
I don’t know I think it kind of was a blow to the confidence of the communists. It didn’t have much to do with the fall of the Berlin wall or anything but it felt important.
1972 and 1987 and every single other international competition including the Olympics during that time were a battle between the west and the communists. And it was about proving a supremacy of one way of a life versus another.
Whether or not that’s true here perhaps is up for debate. But I don’t think it’s fair to expect anyone to stick their head in the sand and pretend like there isn’t some pretty serious threats from the United States of America to the rest of the world right now. And especially Canada.
The outcome of this hockey game isn’t gonna affect Trump’s presidency. But just like 1972 it means more because of the political climate.
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I’ve not said there aren’t serious threats from the United States
I just don’t think this game matters as part of that bigger and way more important topic
I won’t feel any better about the state of the world if Canada wins.
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02-21-2026, 12:09 PM
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#771
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That Crazy Guy at the Bus Stop
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Springfield Penitentiary
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Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina
I’ve not said there aren’t serious threats from the United States
I just don’t think this game matters as part of that bigger and way more important topic
I won’t feel any better about the state of the world if Canada wins.
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OK fair but no matter what the stakes when it’s good versus evil I want good to win.
Bragging rights may not change the world but it feels pretty ####ing good.
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02-21-2026, 12:10 PM
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#772
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by White Out 403
I'd love to hear your thoughts on the Berlin Olympics.
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Totally different thing
Those games are significant because Jesse Owens provided a giant middle finger to the nazi views of white supremecy.
I don’t see anything remotely similar here
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02-21-2026, 12:11 PM
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#773
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#1 Goaltender
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It’s interesting to me. I hope and expect a great game, and while I don’t think a Canada win will affect Trump’s presidency I think the opposite, a Canada loss, would embolden the 51st state idiots.
So to me, it is more than just one game, and there potentially are overarching sociopolitical ramifications.
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02-21-2026, 12:11 PM
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#774
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Cecil Terwilliger
OK fair but no matter what the stakes when it’s good versus evil I want good to win.
Bragging rights may not change the world but it feels pretty ####ing good.
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Sure I’ll take the dopamine hit too. But that’s all it is
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02-21-2026, 12:11 PM
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#775
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by White Out 403
There was 3 fights in the first 9 seconds of the 4 nations final.
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Those fights were basically manufactured and contrived
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02-21-2026, 12:17 PM
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#777
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Owner
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by White Out 403
in·fer·ence
/ˈinf(ə)rən(t)s/
noun
a conclusion reached on the basis of evidence and reasoning.
"researchers are entrusted with drawing inferences from the data"
I removed that last part before you posted.
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There was nothing to infer.
I don't comment on politics. Would just prefer to have hockey ... a sport .. separate.
Insult was submitted.
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02-21-2026, 12:17 PM
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#778
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I expect the friends and family of the Canadian players watching in the stands will happily mingle with and congratulate their American counterparts if the U.S. wins, and vice-versa. It's a choice to subordinate this game to political and national antagonism. But that's social media for you.
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02-21-2026, 12:20 PM
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#779
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Scoring Winger
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Originally Posted by White Out 403
There was 3 fights in the first 9 seconds of the 4 nations final.
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You realise these players play on the same team and hang out on a daily basis. I doubt there is much hate between them. Nobody is going to intentionally injure someone. Though I wouldn't fully trust Tkatchuk or Wilson.
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02-21-2026, 12:21 PM
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#780
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by White Out 403
in·fer·ence
/ˈinf(ə)rən(t)s/
noun
a conclusion reached on the basis of evidence and reasoning.
"researchers are entrusted with drawing inferences from the data"
I removed that last part before you posted.
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Your inference and reasoning comes from a place of bias and childish anger about an idiot stick that doesnt deserve space inside anyones head. So no, youre not a ‘researcher’, or anything close. Youre acting like nothing more than a hissy fit on a hockey-based site that many (most?) prefer stays based around hockey discussions.
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