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Old 02-21-2026, 11:51 AM   #761
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Sad indeed to think that politics doesn't play some role in international hockey. The Summit Series was about our way of life vs there's, on and off the ice.

america has been threatening our country with annexation, tariffs, and doing real harm to our economy and our citizens. I'm sorry/not sorry if this makes you uncomfortable. Bingretzky.
I haven't had a single comment supporting anything the US or Trump is doing.

I just like my hockey without politics mixed in, which is a choice.

Not sure why you feel the need to insult me. Says a lot about you in my mind.
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Not sure why you feel the need to insult me. Says a lot about you in my mind.
I removed that last part before you posted.
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Sad indeed to think that politics doesn't play some role in international hockey. The Summit Series was about our way of life vs there's, on and off
No it wasn’t
It was two teams chasing a piece of rubber
This stuff gets overstated. I understand using it to fuel your dislike for the opposing team but in the grander scheme these games do not matter.
When Canada won in 72 it wasn’t a blow to communism. It was just a game
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No it wasn’t
It was two teams chasing a piece of rubber
This stuff gets overstated. I understand using it to fuel your dislike for the opposing team but in the grander scheme these games do not matter.
When Canada won in 72 it wasn’t a blow to communism. It was just a game
I'd love to hear your thoughts on the Berlin Olympics.
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Our culture has embraced bizarre hyperindividualism to the point where people feel entitled enough to believe they can support Trump and a Canadian National team without a conflict. There was no such "freedom" in 72. It is not comparable that way at all.

From a player's perspective it is also very different. Does anyone expect to see Canadian players actively attempting to seriously injure their opponents tomorrow? Because that happened and was well documented in 72.
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Our culture has embraced bizarre hyperindividualism to the point where people feel entitled enough to believe they can support Trump and a Canadian National team without a conflict. There was no such "freedom" in 72. It is not comparable that way at all.

From a player's perspective it is also very different. Does anyone expect to see Canadian players actively attempting to seriously injure their opponents tomorrow? Because that happened and was well documented in 72.
There was 3 fights in the first 9 seconds of the 4 nations final.
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No it wasn’t
It was two teams chasing a piece of rubber
This stuff gets overstated. I understand using it to fuel your dislike for the opposing team but in the grander scheme these games do not matter.
When Canada won in 72 it wasn’t a blow to communism. It was just a game
I don’t know I think it kind of was a blow to the confidence of the communists. It didn’t have much to do with the fall of the Berlin wall or anything but it felt important.

1972 and 1987 and every single other international competition including the Olympics during that time were a battle between the west and the communists. And it was about proving a supremacy of one way of a life versus another.

Whether or not that’s true here perhaps is up for debate. But I don’t think it’s fair to expect anyone to stick their head in the sand and pretend like there isn’t some pretty serious threats from the United States of America to the rest of the world right now. And especially Canada.

The outcome of this hockey game isn’t gonna affect Trump’s presidency. But just like 1972 it means more because of the political climate.
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Our culture has embraced bizarre hyperindividualism to the point where people feel entitled enough to believe they can support Trump and a Canadian National team without a conflict. There was no such "freedom" in 72. It is not comparable that way at all.

From a player's perspective it is also very different. Does anyone expect to see Canadian players actively attempting to seriously injure their opponents tomorrow? Because that happened and was well documented in 72.
I absolutely expect Matthew Tkachuk to try and injure someone tomorrow. If Crosby plays they’re going after his knee.

And who knows Tom Wilson could kill someone. The man is unhinged. But he’s our maniac and that’s what matters.
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I haven't had a single comment supporting anything the US or Trump is doing.

I just like my hockey without politics mixed in, which is a choice.

Not sure why you feel the need to insult me. Says a lot about you in my mind.
When you have Trumpchuk saying he'd rather visit with the Orange Rapist than winning 2 cups... that kinda changes everything.
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I don’t know I think it kind of was a blow to the confidence of the communists. It didn’t have much to do with the fall of the Berlin wall or anything but it felt important.

1972 and 1987 and every single other international competition including the Olympics during that time were a battle between the west and the communists. And it was about proving a supremacy of one way of a life versus another.

Whether or not that’s true here perhaps is up for debate. But I don’t think it’s fair to expect anyone to stick their head in the sand and pretend like there isn’t some pretty serious threats from the United States of America to the rest of the world right now. And especially Canada.

The outcome of this hockey game isn’t gonna affect Trump’s presidency. But just like 1972 it means more because of the political climate.
I’ve not said there aren’t serious threats from the United States
I just don’t think this game matters as part of that bigger and way more important topic
I won’t feel any better about the state of the world if Canada wins.
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I’ve not said there aren’t serious threats from the United States
I just don’t think this game matters as part of that bigger and way more important topic
I won’t feel any better about the state of the world if Canada wins.
OK fair but no matter what the stakes when it’s good versus evil I want good to win.

Bragging rights may not change the world but it feels pretty ####ing good.
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I'd love to hear your thoughts on the Berlin Olympics.
Totally different thing
Those games are significant because Jesse Owens provided a giant middle finger to the nazi views of white supremecy.
I don’t see anything remotely similar here
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It’s interesting to me. I hope and expect a great game, and while I don’t think a Canada win will affect Trump’s presidency I think the opposite, a Canada loss, would embolden the 51st state idiots.
So to me, it is more than just one game, and there potentially are overarching sociopolitical ramifications.
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OK fair but no matter what the stakes when it’s good versus evil I want good to win.

Bragging rights may not change the world but it feels pretty ####ing good.
Sure I’ll take the dopamine hit too. But that’s all it is
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There was 3 fights in the first 9 seconds of the 4 nations final.
Those fights were basically manufactured and contrived
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Of course there is going to be some politics talk in an international olympic game where participants are wearing some form of their countries flag or colors. Especially when relationships are strained, which is a very light way to phrase it given that one of them continually has made annexation comments and the like.

I also understand just wanting to enjoy the hockey as it isn't often we get to see teams of this caliber play. That in itself is pretty special too. I remember back in the early 00's, I was half cheering for the US to tie it up near the end of the game just so I could see OT and more time spent playing as it was so much fun.

I also don't give a single thought as to who or what each player may or may not support. Who cares? I don't mean to disparage them too much, but I watch them because of their skill in hockey, not their informed political choices. Same goes for any "entertainer".

People don't have to post or engage in material they don't want to. I mostly lurk here, and am grateful to read the opinions and back and forths (sometimes) between different viewpoints. If you aren't a fan of the politics, then read past the political posts and respond to the hockey ones. And vice versa...I think there is room for both, and the mixing of the two is unavoidable to a large extent given the current climate and adversarial relationship between the two countries right now. So take it from a lurker - it is very easy to read past a post that you may not agree with, and move on without embroiling yourself in something you don't enjoy. Just my unsolicited thoughts!
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I removed that last part before you posted.
There was nothing to infer.

I don't comment on politics. Would just prefer to have hockey ... a sport .. separate.

Insult was submitted.
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I expect the friends and family of the Canadian players watching in the stands will happily mingle with and congratulate their American counterparts if the U.S. wins, and vice-versa. It's a choice to subordinate this game to political and national antagonism. But that's social media for you.
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There was 3 fights in the first 9 seconds of the 4 nations final.
You realise these players play on the same team and hang out on a daily basis. I doubt there is much hate between them. Nobody is going to intentionally injure someone. Though I wouldn't fully trust Tkatchuk or Wilson.
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I removed that last part before you posted.
Your inference and reasoning comes from a place of bias and childish anger about an idiot stick that doesnt deserve space inside anyones head. So no, youre not a ‘researcher’, or anything close. Youre acting like nothing more than a hissy fit on a hockey-based site that many (most?) prefer stays based around hockey discussions.
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