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Old 09-12-2022, 02:04 PM   #7381
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Sure but Kherson is where their good troops are. They lose them they lose any chance of winning this war on the ground. Anyway just going to hold my breath til we get more news. Obviously would be huge if true but I’ll just wait for now.
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Old 09-12-2022, 02:05 PM   #7382
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If the combat phase ends, it's still difficult to imagine Russia fully ending the war if they have no gains. I can see it just turning into a cold conflict with occasional skirmishes, bombings, and missiles being fired into Ukraine from Russia.

It will be good if the combat phase ends of course, but I doubt we are going to get back to normal any time soon unless the Putin regime falls and is replaced with something better.
If the conflict ends wouldn’t Ukraine then be able to join NATO?

If that’s the case my guess is Putin will continue low scale military operations just to keep the “active conflict” going.
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Old 09-12-2022, 02:22 PM   #7383
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I doubt they invade Crimea. They will probably just blockade it and use it as leverage to negotiate a peace settlement.
Zelensky has personally stated that the war is not over until Russia leaves all of occupied Ukraine, including Crimea. Russian citizens have already been fleeing there en masse, I think if the Russian military is as close to full collapse as the reports are indicating then Ukraine will get Crimea back without having to fire a shot there
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Old 09-12-2022, 02:25 PM   #7384
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Step 1: retake Crimea
Step 2: immediately blow up Crimean bridge.
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Kudos to Putin for one of the biggest screw-ups on a major leader in our lifetime (actually probably the biggest)
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Kudos to Putin for one of the biggest screw-ups on a major leader in our lifetime (actually probably the biggest)
The only comparable I can think of is Hitler's decision to invade Russia. I wonder if Putin appreciates the irony
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If the combat phase ends, it's still difficult to imagine Russia fully ending the war if they have no gains. I can see it just turning into a cold conflict with occasional skirmishes, bombings, and missiles being fired into Ukraine from Russia.

It will be good if the combat phase ends of course, but I doubt we are going to get back to normal any time soon unless the Putin regime falls and is replaced with something better.
“The victor is not victorious if the vanquished does not consider himself so.” -Ennius
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Old 09-12-2022, 03:50 PM   #7388
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Azerbaijan is possibly capitalizing on Russian weakness, as they've just started attacking Armenia. They fought in 2020, mostly in Nagorno-Karabakh (disputed territory within Azerbaijan), but these attacks are on Armenia proper.
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Old 09-12-2022, 06:06 PM   #7389
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The war will soon be over, Ukranian forces are collapsing.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1569321565531115523
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Old 09-12-2022, 06:19 PM   #7390
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"the impoverishment of the West"...

I think we'll be fine
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Old 09-12-2022, 06:30 PM   #7391
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Tucker Carlson belongs on Sputnik or RT.


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The war will soon be over, Ukranian forces are collapsing.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1569321565531115523
Weird… are they perhaps following a different Ukraine-Russia war?
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https://www.theglobeandmail.com/worl...raine-insider/

Really good article on the recent offensive from a captains perspective.
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Weird… are they perhaps following a different Ukraine-Russia war?
Not really weird when you think of it, If Ukraine wins it makes Biden look good, Fox doesn't like that idea.
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Old 09-13-2022, 03:49 AM   #7395
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Duma's speaker says that Kyiv actions will result in nuclear war.

Seems like Putin has realized he can't win a conventional war and now is contemplating nukes.

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Old 09-13-2022, 04:17 AM   #7396
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Moscow Times reporting that Putin has left for his Sochi mansion and cancelled all meetings with his military staff.
Meetings with military staff are useless at this point. Apparently it came down to nuking Kyiv or quitting. Him leaving Moscow also may be related to possible retaliation strike on Moscow.
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Old 09-13-2022, 05:20 AM   #7397
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Uhhhhhh.... really?

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Nuclear Sabre rattling was an inevitable outcome. Every time things take a bad turn he wants to remind everyone he's got nukes
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Nuclear Sabre rattling was an inevitable outcome. Every time things take a bad turn he wants to remind everyone he's got nukes
Yeah, that kind of talk means nothing one way or the other.

Also, the Duma is full of nutcases who say a lot of crazy stuff.
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another strange death under mysterious circumstances of a high-ranking official has taken place. This time the deceased is Ivan Pechorin, who was reported dead this Tuesday by his company.

Pechorin reportedly fell off a boat and drowned in the sea near close to Russky Island and Cape Ignatiev off the Pacific coast of Russia.
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Among other things, Pechorin was responsible for the development of projects in the Arctic. As an area rich in oil and gas, the Arctic is seen as an important part of Putin’s strategy to find a way around the economic sanctions that#Moscow#has been hit by. Another of his roles was in developing the air industry in eastern Russia, a sector which has of course been badly affected by the sanctions
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