08-25-2016, 09:01 AM
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#721
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Salmon with Arms
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I'm all for the $7.5M contract, but certainly not if it's only buying one UFA year
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08-25-2016, 09:09 AM
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#722
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Flames stars Sean Monahan and Johnny Gaudreau stick together
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Originally Posted by Gaudreauvertime
What was my contract suggestion? I just said earlier anywhere between 7M-8M over 7-8 years would be fair.
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Well, no, now you're trying to correct it to be close to that.
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Originally Posted by Gaudreauvertime
Gaudreau should get paid at least what Tarasenko got, probably a bit more as he finished higher in the scoring race.
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Originally Posted by Gaudreauvertime
I'm debating the idea that its careless to offer him 7M-8M a year.
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Originally Posted by Gaudreauvertime
I see no logical argument against Gaudreau getting at least Tarasenko money.
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Originally Posted by Gaudreauvertime
Hmm . . . Wouldn't shock they end up doing something like 4x7 just to get a deal done.
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Originally Posted by Gaudreauvertime
the floor should be Forsberg + 10%, ceiling Tarasenko +10%, so that's between 7M and 8M on a 7 year deal.
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You've pretty much hardlined a Tarasenko (7.5) minimum this entire time, even go as far as saying that an offer of 7-8 million is careless.
You've changed your tune have you? Did the ridiculousness of something like a 4 year, 7M per contract finally sink in?
You've not once suggested 7-8 on a 7 or 8 year deal, and even now with your backtracking, you still think 8M on an 8 year deal.
I'm saying 7-7.5 on an 8 year deal wouldnt be ridiculous, 7.5 being the max. You don't get to go another 500K above that (minimum) and say "but why is it ridiculous." That's another 4.5 million added onto that contract.
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08-25-2016, 09:43 AM
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#723
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In the Sin Bin
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Edit: Please make sure you take time to carefully read my posts before you assume my intent. There's a few times below where you didn't read my post properly and its time consuming to combat poor reading comprehension.
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Originally Posted by PepsiFree
You've pretty much hardlined a Tarasenko (7.5) minimum this entire time, even go as far as saying that an offer of 7-8 million is careless.
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Umm, read my post again, "I'm debating the idea that its careless to offer him 7M-8M a year." People were saying that that would be a careless offer, and I was challenging that
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Originally Posted by PepsiFree
You've changed your tune have you? Did the ridiculousness of something like a 4 year, 7M per contract finally sink in?
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It doesn't sound ridiculous at all. Like I said, 6.5M would be fair, but I don't think 7M would be unfair, and I could easily see it ballooning to 7M if they are trying to just get a deal done.
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Originally Posted by PepsiFree
You've not once suggested 7-8 on a 7 or 8 year deal, and even now with your backtracking, you still think 8M on an 8 year deal.
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That's exactly what I did when I said "Forsberg + 10%, ceiling Tarasenko +10%, so that's between 7M and 8M on a 7 year deal.". You literally just quoted that in your reply
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Originally Posted by PepsiFree
I'm saying 7-7.5 on an 8 year deal wouldnt be ridiculous, 7.5 being the max. You don't get to go another 500K above that (minimum) and say "but why is it ridiculous." That's another 4.5 million added onto that contract.
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Why would 7.5x8 be the max when Tarasenko got that deal a year ago as a less proven player with worse numbers? Inflation alone would turn that into ~8M/year
Tarasenko - 66g 135p in 179gp at the time of his contract
Gaudreau - 55g 143p in 160gp at the time of his contract
So on top of inflation, Gaudreau has been a more productive player at every stage of their respective NHL careers.
So why is that ridiculous to think he should get paid 8M on a 8 year deal?
Last edited by Gaudreauvertime; 08-25-2016 at 09:47 AM.
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08-25-2016, 09:53 AM
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#724
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Originally Posted by Gaudreauvertime
So why is that ridiculous to think he should get paid 8M on a 8 year deal?
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This has been pointed out roughly a thousand times in this thread. For someone who seems to enjoy telling people "your reading comprehension is bad!" And "re-read my post!" you clearly haven't bothered to read anything anyone else has been saying or even tried to comprehend it.
I don't know why I bother.
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08-25-2016, 10:00 AM
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#725
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Scoring Winger
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Originally Posted by PepsiFree
This has been pointed out roughly a thousand times in this thread. For someone who seems to enjoy telling people "your reading comprehension is bad!" And "re-read my post!" you clearly haven't bothered to read anything anyone else has been saying or even tried to comprehend it.
I don't know why I bother.
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Gaudreau ultimately receiving $8M-$10M on a long term deal wouldn't be as shocking to me as the fact that people have been debating with Gaudreauvertime over the exact same points for over 15 pages now!
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08-25-2016, 10:01 AM
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#726
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In the Sin Bin
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Originally Posted by PepsiFree
This has been pointed out roughly a thousand times in this thread. For someone who seems to enjoy telling people "your reading comprehension is bad!" And "re-read my post!" you clearly haven't bothered to read anything anyone else has been saying or even tried to comprehend it.
I don't know why I bother.
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Ok, show me where, I legitimately haven't seen much from people detailing why 8M x 8 years is illogical or unreasonable. Do you disagree with my logic regarding inflation and relative production?
Last edited by Gaudreauvertime; 08-25-2016 at 10:07 AM.
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08-25-2016, 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Gaudreauvertime
Ok, show me where, I legitimately haven't seen much from people detailing why 8M x 8 years is illogical or unreasonable. Do you disagree with my logic regarding inflation and relative production?
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http://forum.calgarypuck.com/showthread.php?t=155741
Right there.
And yes.
Bye.
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08-25-2016, 10:13 AM
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#728
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In the Sin Bin
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Can we get back to worrying about him bailing? It'd be a breath of fresh air at this point...
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08-25-2016, 10:16 AM
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#729
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In the Sin Bin
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Originally Posted by PepsiFree
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You said its been explained "a thousand times" and you post the link to this 37 page thread as evidence?
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08-25-2016, 10:22 AM
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#730
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First round-bust
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: speculating about AHL players
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Is this really still going on?
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08-25-2016, 10:22 AM
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#731
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Sec206
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Originally Posted by Gaudreauvertime
You said its been explained "a thousand times" and you post the link to this 37 page thread as evidence?
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^^^^^
Last edited by theslymonkey; 08-25-2016 at 10:33 AM.
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08-25-2016, 10:26 AM
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#732
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: stuck in BC watching the nucks
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He has been shown why his ideals are not stacking up on how he slightly over values the player, he refuses to listen or notice other posters opinions even with their evidence, so this should just be /end thread
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08-25-2016, 11:02 AM
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#733
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In the Sin Bin
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Originally Posted by jaikorven
He has been shown why his ideals are not stacking up on how he slightly over values the player, he refuses to listen or notice other posters opinions even with their evidence, so this should just be /end thread
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What's funny is that the exact opposite thing is happening . . it seems every time I reply to a post people respond by complaining about me posting my opinion (like your post) instead of actually debating on content. Meanwhile, I have addressed tons of different posts that debate the topic at hand.
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08-25-2016, 11:16 AM
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#734
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Franchise Player
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You are insufferable.
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08-25-2016, 11:18 AM
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#735
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Franchise Player
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Marseilles Of The Prairies
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Man something about the FOI forum makes everyone so crazy they can be derailed by literally 1 poster in like, 3 threads.
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Settle down there, Temple Grandin.
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08-25-2016, 12:02 PM
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#736
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Flames fan in Seattle
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This thread is getting to be such a train wreck that I'm starting to get entertained by it. Go Gaudreauovertime Go!
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08-25-2016, 12:08 PM
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#737
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: CGY
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Originally Posted by PsYcNeT
Man something about the FOI forum makes everyone so crazy they can be derailed by literally 1 poster in like, 3 threads.
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This guy is making me crazy. Starting to think it's about time to trade Johnny. (Idk how to green)
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08-25-2016, 12:11 PM
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#738
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In the Sin Bin
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Originally Posted by jemjey
This guy is making me crazy. Starting to think it's about time to trade Johnny. (Idk how to green)
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There ya go
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08-25-2016, 12:12 PM
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#739
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by FBI
This thread is getting to be such a train wreck that I'm starting to get entertained by it. Go Gaudreauovertime Go!
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Same here! We need hockey talk! Gaudreavertime, whether you agree with him or not, is single-handedly keeping the FOI forum alive at this time of year.
Similar to how the real Gaudreau keeps the Flames alive in games....
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08-25-2016, 12:19 PM
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#740
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Northern Crater
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Originally Posted by Huntingwhale
Same here! We need hockey talk! Gaudreavertime, whether you agree with him or not, is single-handedly keeping the FOI forum alive at this time of year.
Similar to how the real Gaudreau keeps the Flames alive in games....
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I would rather read nothing than this have to wade through spam.
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