09-19-2013, 12:59 PM
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#721
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Calgary, AB
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Originally Posted by Displaced Flames fan
The play he made against Alabama last week is a perfect example. The media goes nuts about it and what a great play it was. It was a terrible decision and pure luck that his WR was able to get that ball.
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Yeah, but the NY Giants don't win their first Super Bowl if they don't have a QB with the balls to make that kind of throw and get lucky.
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09-19-2013, 01:20 PM
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#722
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by SuperMatt18
Yeah, but the NY Giants don't win their first Super Bowl if they don't have a QB with the balls to make that kind of throw and get lucky.
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One throw is a heck of a lot different than a guy who relies on those types of throws, although Manning does throw a ton of picks. Manziel could certainly develop that side of his game, but if the draft is tomorrow I'm not taking him over the other QB's on the board.
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09-19-2013, 01:50 PM
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#723
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Fearmongerer
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Wondering when # became hashtag and not a number sign.
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Originally Posted by valo403
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LOL...obfuscate, dont address what was said, deflect.
You are so full of it.....its hilarious and soooo transparent.
Carry on though...its humorous.
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09-19-2013, 01:51 PM
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#724
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: in your blind spot.
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I just know I keep hearing comparisons between Manziel and Ryan Leaf, and that should give any suitors pause.
He may be awesome, but he would need to go into the correct situation with someone who knew how to push his buttons and turn him into a pro. The wrong team and it will a waste of a pick.
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09-19-2013, 01:52 PM
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#725
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Calgary, Alberta
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Originally Posted by Sylvanfan
Well a Thursday night road game this early in the season with that much travel usually doesn't go well for the visiters.
The Chargers proved that the Eagles are indeed a team that can be beaten as their defence has a lot of holes at this point in time. Problem is that the Chiefs offence is still very pedestrian and really has an awful passing game. After Dwayne Bowe the receiving core is bad, and teams are able to key on the run and keep Charles in check, and they really have no other running back. Smith has done a really good job of protecting the football though, and the defence has been pretty good the first couple games. Still Vick, Desean Jackson, and McCoy look dangerous everytime they tough the ball. Chiefs need to get a lot of hits on Vick early if they want to have a chance. But if this one starts getting away from them, Philly can laugh all the way to a 56-7 win.
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I always love to see your optimism shine through!
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09-19-2013, 01:56 PM
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#726
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#1 Goaltender
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Colts activated troubled ex-Tennesse Volunteers WR Da'Rick Rogers to their 53 man roster today. Hopefully Pagano and co. can get this kid's head in the right place because he has so much potential.
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09-19-2013, 01:58 PM
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#727
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Calgary, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by valo403
One throw is a heck of a lot different than a guy who relies on those types of throws, although Manning does throw a ton of picks. Manziel could certainly develop that side of his game, but if the draft is tomorrow I'm not taking him over the other QB's on the board.
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He relies on those type of throws?
In 2012 he had a 68% completion rate with only 9 interceptions.
The kid didn't win the Heisman because he is lucky and just tosses up prayers.
Plus in games against what is the best defense in the country, and has been praised as an NFL type defense, he has only put up over 70% completion rate with 7 TDs, 2 interceptions, and over 700 yards passing.
I think his off field issues are blinding people to how good of a football player Johnny Manziel actually is. I have a feeling people just don't like the kid so they want to see him bust.
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09-19-2013, 01:59 PM
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#728
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Fearmongerer
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Wondering when # became hashtag and not a number sign.
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Manziel to me, just doesnt have an NFL "look" about him....size, style, etc.. none of it. Of course thats what i thought about Doug Flutie too.
6', 200 lbs or so....very pedestrian....plays in a unique offense that wont translate to the NFL exactly....
Yeah, a lot of ?? about him but without a doubt someone will fall in love with him more than likely and make him a 1st rd pick.
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09-19-2013, 02:03 PM
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#729
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Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Maryland State House, Annapolis
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If Johnny keeps putting up absurd stat lines its going to be very difficult to see him not going in the first round.
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09-19-2013, 02:06 PM
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#730
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by transplant99
LOL...obfuscate, dont address what was said, deflect.
You are so full of it.....its hilarious and soooo transparent.
Carry on though...its humorous.
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Do you even know what those words mean?
Feel free to discuss the points, or keep acting like a petulant little child. Up to you.
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09-19-2013, 02:08 PM
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#731
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SuperMatt18
He relies on those type of throws?
In 2012 he had a 68% completion rate with only 9 interceptions.
The kid didn't win the Heisman because he is lucky and just tosses up prayers.
Plus in games against what is the best defense in the country, and has been praised as an NFL type defense, he has only put up over 70% completion rate with 7 TDs, 2 interceptions, and over 700 yards passing.
I think his off field issues are blinding people to how good of a football player Johnny Manziel actually is. I have a feeling people just don't like the kid so they want to see him bust.
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Well I haven't watched every game, but I've seen him routinely heave balls into situations that call on his WR to make the play. He relies on being more athletic than the defense, and uses that to take advantage when they break down. That's great, and he should use it, but that advantage won't exist at the next level.
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09-19-2013, 02:44 PM
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#732
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NOT breaking news
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by valo403
That makes no sense. QB's take time to develop. They already have a good defense. Add a strong QB to that team and they may be a contender in 2-3 years. Add another DE and they're in the same place they are now.
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I don't totally disagree with you.
But in this case Clowney can't be passed over. Absolute freak.
Another DE is another pass rusher, not just the same as they are now.
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09-19-2013, 05:12 PM
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#733
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Appealing my suspension
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Just outside Enemy Lines
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Originally Posted by Slava
I always love to see your optimism shine through!
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Hey, I know the flaws of my own teams.... 
Good news is that 25% of the road schedule will be done and the team will still be above 500!
This years team seems to be miles ahead at the mental game though. Last two years they got creamed the first 3 games of the season, this year they've come up looking much sharper. Nice to see the defence not give up 40+ points in the first two games of the season like they did the past two years.
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09-19-2013, 05:24 PM
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#734
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Uncle Chester
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I love watching two bullies fight eachother. Keep it up fellas.
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09-19-2013, 06:14 PM
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#735
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Fearmongerer
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Wondering when # became hashtag and not a number sign.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by valo403
Do you even know what those words mean?
Feel free to discuss the points, or keep acting like a petulant little child. Up to you.
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i will leave it at that since apparently you being "bullied".
Wow.
Last edited by transplant99; 09-19-2013 at 06:17 PM.
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09-19-2013, 06:26 PM
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#736
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Victoria
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WTF is this? Is this always the opening song for TNF?
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09-19-2013, 06:28 PM
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#737
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Fearmongerer
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Wondering when # became hashtag and not a number sign.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rubecube
WTF is this? Is this always the opening song for TNF?
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yeah...new to me as well.
Who is that?
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09-19-2013, 06:33 PM
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#739
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Fearmongerer
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Wondering when # became hashtag and not a number sign.
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Yikes....bad start for Philly.
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09-19-2013, 06:36 PM
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#740
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Apartment 5A
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The Chiefs have a first and goal yet they fail to get a TD. That seems so familiar.
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