Occupy Calgary/Do Not Merge

[Sliver]

Originally Posted by pylon

I love how Nenshi is starting to show he is intolerant of these idiots, now that the 'popular' consensus is that people have had enough.

If the public majority was backing these people , he would be down there camping with them in a purple tent.

He is such a typical slimey politician, what a joke.

Not really. He cut them some slack at first - like most of us - and now that the movement has evolved into nothing he's getting annoyed by it - like most of us. They'll be gone in days or weeks, not months, at basically no cost or risk to Calgarians if we just sit back and wait for winter to do its thing. There is no better approach.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by First Lady

For tonight's feature twit ...err Tweet.

I bring you @XWM42 aka C. McMillan

Who compares the occupy Calgary plight to that of Dustin Paxton's victim.

http://twitter.com/#!/xwm42/status/131494485837348864

Wow, what a maroon.

[First Lady]

Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame

. . . So based on the sentiments in this thread lately, when is CP going to organize a mob and go beat them and their tents down with bats and pitchforks?

Don't forget to tweet about it - I'm curious to see how it plays out in 140 characters

Seems to have been worthwhile for my hubby.

http://www.calgaryherald.com/news/ca...megadrop_story

There is also an interview with him on QR77.

http://www.qr77.com/other/AudioVault.html

Select November 1 st. then 5:00 PM Press "Listen"

Click the little black arrow to open up bar, from there you can move the grey slider to about the 17 min mark where the discussion starts.

Is about 4 minutes long.

[Ozy_Flame]

If the petition can influence the City to make a decision, that's awesome. Although I suspect your husband will need more than 1000 signatures. Maybe some voices from surrounding businesses could lend a bit more credence to the petition.

Also, even if the 'Occupiers' remove their tents, are we still going to have the tempers flare if they continue to protest during the day and in a legal manner? Somehow I have a feeling that being Occupiers in the first place is more anger-inducing to some than simply setting up illegal tents. People in Calgary love to point fingers at the 'hippies' and 'communists.' Not that there's anything wrong with that.

[First Lady]

Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame

If the petition can influence the City to make a decision, that's awesome. Although I suspect your husband will need more than 1000 signatures. Maybe some voices from surrounding businesses could lend a bit more credence to the petition.

Also, even if the 'Occupiers' remove their tents, are we still going to have the tempers flare if they continue to protest during the day and in a legal manner? Somehow I have a feeling that being Occupiers in the first place is more anger-inducing to some than simply setting up illegal tents. People in Calgary love to point fingers at the 'hippies' and 'communists.' Not that there's anything wrong with that.

I find it sad that we need to do things like petitions, blog, tweet to get our elected officials to act.

But hey we are exercising our freedom of speech and expression without breaking bylaws..... LOL

btw I believe the 1000 was the default amount. You can put it higher or lower. Number is not significant; making people aware is goal.

[Slava]

Has he considered tenting as an opportunity to spread the word? I hear its quite effective.

[macker]

View them as a hedge against extremely cold weather. I don't mind them being there as long as we continue to have the fall that we are enjoying. At some point though they will have to pack it in as based even on last November we had temperatures hit -28 degrees and there is no way anyone is camping in that The one advantage Calgary has that some other Occupy locations don't have.....Mother nature will send them packing soon enough. 8th avenue freeze out http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eb4zN...eature=related

[Regular_John]

By god, this @LaurRaur girl is out of touch with reality.

@LaurRaur Laura Shiels
@jaydorn again why are they not allowed the tents?A bylaw? Ask yourself why it exists and how the protest isnt complying to its stipulations

She asked the same question and answers it herself.

why are they not allowed the tents?A bylaw?
Yes, that's exactly it, the bylaw says no overnight camping.

Ask yourself why it exists and how the protest isnt complying to its stipulations
Because it's not a campground, the protest don't comply to the stipulations because the bylaw says no over night camping.

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Seriously? Is she that confused by her own questions? It's a black & white issue! Am I missing something here?

In other news it appears my $100 wasn't a motivating enough factor. I'll still do my usual donations this year, but it just proves this "change" they speak of really means "look at me!"

[Cowperson]

Civilization is crumbling in Baltimore.

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/mar...,6023548.story

Cowperson

[First Lady]

Originally Posted by jaydorn

Am I missing something here?

I think we are missing whatever they are smoking.

[Bunk]

Thing is - who doesn't want the protesters out? A petition seems to be preaching to the converted.

The real question is how to go about doing it. Go in and crack heads? Doesn't that play into what the protesters want? So, if not that, what? It's difficult for cities to find the right solution.

[First Lady]

Originally Posted by Bunk

Thing is - who doesn't want the protesters out? A petition seems to be preaching to the converted.

The real question is how to go about doing it. Go in and crack heads? Doesn't that play into what the protesters want? So, if not that, what? It's difficult for cities to find the right solution.

I think a start would be to remove the toilets, tables, tents and whatever else they have brought in. Personal belongings can be impounded and picked up by the rightful owners.

[Bunk]

Can't really comment on what action may be taken.

[Ozy_Flame]

Originally Posted by Cowperson

Civilization is crumbling in Baltimore.

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/mar...,6023548.story

Cowperson

Yeah but . . . It's Baltimore.

[Ace]

The best way to get the city to act is to go to fish creek, or bowness, or some random elementary school, and start camping. One media call and interview asking the person what they are doing, spreading the occupy movement? 'no, now that camping is allowed in public parks I decided to enjoy it'

The city is not going to want to be mocked. Although not Likely to find someone with time to waist camping in a public park in November (thats not already doing it)

[Stay Golden]

Nenshi trying to posture vs the protester in his flamboyant way was comical to watch.

[Radio]

What's comical are these so called "protestors". The average person probably has no idea what the protest is about and I don't think the protestors do either...just fighting the man I suppose.

In that news footage you see a few placards saying things like "Move the lunch trucks to where they're needed!". Implying that these food vendors just give away food... They are running a business and expect to be paid for their services. Moving them over by the homeless shelter isn't going to feed the homeless, it's just going to ruin their business.

Reading that article posted earlier about the "movement" in New York and all their donation money. It's ridiculous! Buying laptops, isn't that fueling the corporate greed they're fighting...

It's time to go home...no one cares.

[Boblobla]

http://calgary.openfile.ca/node/6176

[Cowperson]

Originally Posted by Ozy_Flame

Yeah but . . . It's Baltimore.

Good news . . . . . Occupy Oakland is calling for a city-wide general strike, wants to shut down the port.

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la...,7907844.story

Good news . . . . . landscape architects are thrilled with the Occupy movement and the revival of public spaces for protests

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2...andscape-arch/

Cowperson

[Sliver]

Originally Posted by First Lady

I think a start would be to remove the toilets, tables, tents and whatever else they have brought in. Personal belongings can be impounded and picked up by the rightful owners.

That would be a great start if you wanted to turn this into an altercation.

Honestly, do you really believe forcibly removing these people is a good idea, or do you think it plays better to your political aspirations to take an opposing stand to Nenshi's strategy?

As well, say you did remove the toilets, tents, etc. and the protesters stayed, where are they going to go to the bathroom? All other elements of your idea aside, removing the toilets is a terrible idea.

I'd bet any money Nenshi and his team have a drop-dead date circled on the calendar and if the weather hasn't booted the protesters by then, Nenshi will do it. My guess is that would be by mid-December, but maybe by November 30. Since them being there really doesn't matter to anybody, another week, two, three or six isn't going to matter since winter is coming anyway.