2018/2019 Trade Speculation and Rumors

[Ozy_Flame]

I expect to see Lazar one more time. He went down to Stockton with a good head on his shoulders, focusing on improving his game. Apparently it looks to have worked, it would be foolhardy not to give a chance to succeed down the stretch.

Additionally, if he gets traded, Treliving is going to have to showcase him to scouts. Why not put him on a high danger line and maximize his value?

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by dammage79

I'd still take Nichushkin if he could be had. Top six potential is still there. Change scenery and maybe something happens. At worst he's a fast and big bottom six forward.

It would be funny just for the 2013 first rounder aspect. He would be 8 of 30 players drafted in that first round to be part of the Flames organization along with Monahan, Poirier, Klimchuk, Shinkaruk, Lazar, Lindholm, and Rychel

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

It's funny how much patience people have for players on other teams, but not for Flames' players.

A year older than Bennett, only 2/3s the points, and a worse player in every regard (to this point), but not at all unreasonable to assume that he will figure it out.

Bennett? Is what he is apparently.

Not sure what I said had to do with Bennett since I think he's just fine this year and have no desire like others around here to see him go anywhere.

All I said was I would take Nich on this team as I think there's much more there. Much like I did with Elias Lindholm.

Plus, adding Nich would be right in trees wheelhouse of adding first rounders from that draft

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by dammage79

Not sure what I said had to do with Bennett since I think he's just fine this year and have no desire like others around here to see him go anywhere.

All I said was I would take Nich on this team as I think there's much more there. Much like I did with Elias Lindholm.

Plus, adding Nich would be right in trees wheelhouse of adding first rounders from that draft

I wasn't criticizing you, I was criticizing the 'Bennett is what he is' crowd.

Nichushkin is a good example of a player similar to Bennett in that there is still the chance (a very reasonable one) that he puts it all together.

I wouldn't mind taking a chance on Nich as well.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Shazam

Lazar will never play for the Flames again unless there's a ton of injuries.

I'd bet he will see a few. He's outproducing everyone except Quine, Rychel and Dube, and the coach seems to think Dube needs to work on his game a bit, while at the same time singing the praises of Lazar. He's ahead of Phillips by a wide margin and, in the stretch run or the POs, on a bottom line I think they go with an older, bigger, and more experienced guy over someone like Phillips.

Methinks Lazar might do better with Ryan and Hathaway than with Stajan and Brouwer.

[Dodsdomd]

Originally Posted by Harry Lime

Brett Ritchie and Nishuchkin both have a skill set that would translate well to the Flames style of play, but motivation seems to be a major factor with them. Anyone have any Dallas insight?

Harvey B's is one of the greatest hamburger shacks around. To die for onion rings.


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[Bingo]

OK Flash found it ...

Individual production five on five for both players.

With Tkachuk
Bennett 2.18 points/60
Frolik 3.95 points/60

Without Tkachuk
Bennett 1.26 points/60
Frolik 0.72 points/60

Frolik more productive than Bennett on the Tkachuk line. And Frolik more dependent on Tkachuk than Bennett for production.

[sureLoss]

Flames don't play either team again this season. Wayne Simmonds rumors intensify:

Adam Kimelman @NHLAdamK
Scouts in the house for Bruins-Flyers: Blackhawks (3), Senators (2), Stars, Flames, Kings, Red Wings

[Toonage]

Don Maloney said on TV a few nights back he'd be scouting players they were interested in these upcoming weeks. Will be fun to follow the scouting lists. Is there a website that provides lists of what team reps attend the games?

[TheScorpion]

I was just about to ask the same question, Toonage. Very curious to know that.

[The Boy Wonder]

Originally Posted by Bingo

OK Flash found it ...

Individual production five on five for both players.

With Tkachuk
Bennett 2.18 points/60
Frolik 3.95 points/60

Without Tkachuk
Bennett 1.26 points/60
Frolik 0.72 points/60

Frolik more productive than Bennett on the Tkachuk line. And Frolik more dependent on Tkachuk than Bennett for production.

Does this also include the 6 empty net points frolik has this year because those truly shouldn't be counting stats in terms of true "production" when it matters.

[GioforPM]

The players on Philly I'd want they are not getting rid of or are too much money on long term deals.

[Monahammer]

Ugh please God no Simmonds. Learn from the few mistakes you do make tre!!!!

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by The Boy Wonder

Does this also include the 6 empty net points frolik has this year because those truly shouldn't be counting stats in terms of true "production" when it matters.

In at least 2 games this year the ENG has turned out to be the GWG.

[Gaudfather]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

Ugh please God no Simmonds. Learn from the few mistakes you do make tre!!!!

Brouwer was clearly a mistake. Neal is not looking good, but with a strong contribution in the latter part of the season, but more importantly in the playoffs, and the Neal signing could still be redeemed.

But clearly you dont want to make this mistake again - betting on the grinder power forward who doesn't grind so much anymore and doesn't produce.

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by The Boy Wonder

Does this also include the 6 empty net points frolik has this year because those truly shouldn't be counting stats in terms of true "production" when it matters.

Five on five doesn't include empty net goals, so all good.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Gaudfather

Brouwer was clearly a mistake. Neal is not looking good, but with a strong contribution in the latter part of the season, but more importantly in the playoffs, and the Neal signing could still be redeemed.

But clearly you dont want to make this mistake again - betting on the grinder power forward who doesn't grind so much anymore and doesn't produce.

I have always been an advocate for size - especially in the playoffs.

But the Flames are all about speed and transition. If they are going to pick someone up at the deadline, I hope they have speed. No interest in Simmonds at all.

[Psytic]

Originally Posted by TheIronMaiden

This is the root of the issue for sure. At best Bennett is just below average against historical 4th over all picks.

https://www.hockey-reference.com/pla...order_by=round

I guess we are just lucky we aren't the Oilers looking at their 4th overall picks/ Reinhart. It could be worse.

[the2bears]

Originally Posted by The Boy Wonder

Does this also include the 6 empty net points frolik has this year because those truly shouldn't be counting stats in terms of true "production" when it matters.

We've just recently seen how those points "matter".

[SeanCharles]

Originally Posted by Gaudfather

Brouwer was clearly a mistake. Neal is not looking good, but with a strong contribution in the latter part of the season, but more importantly in the playoffs, and the Neal signing could still be redeemed.

But clearly you dont want to make this mistake again - betting on the grinder power forward who doesn't grind so much anymore and doesn't produce.

15 goals in 46 games is the definition of not producing now?

Avg of 26-27G over 82 games.