Golf!!!2!

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

There are so many tips and methods for achieving largely the same thing that it seems to be about what clicks for your brain... the thing for me was imagining that the ball is sitting on a $20 bill and trying to hit that bill out of the bunker rather than the ball. Not that that's intended as advice for malcolm14k, who I'm sure is better than me, it's just my method.

That being said I now use one of the many available wide-sole wedges (Callaway Sure-Out) and it's borderline cheating. But the trade-off there is a bit less distance control, so it's more of a solution for those of us who are always satisfied with a "ball on green somewhere" result and getting it close is a windfall.

[Heavy Jack]

Hey getting out of a bunker and anywhere on the green first try makes us all feel like pros no matter how it’s done!

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague

There are so many tips and methods for achieving largely the same thing that it seems to be about what clicks for your brain... the thing for me was imagining that the ball is sitting on a $20 bill and trying to hit that bill out of the bunker rather than the ball. Not that that's intended as advice for malcolm14k, who I'm sure is better than me, it's just my method.

That being said I now use one of the many available wide-sole wedges (Callaway Sure-Out) and it's borderline cheating. But the trade-off there is a bit less distance control, so it's more of a solution for those of us who are always satisfied with a "ball on green somewhere" result and getting it close is a windfall.

Why a $20?

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Weitz

Has anyone played highland pacific near Victoria? It’s the only public course in the Victoria area I haven’t played. Worth playing?

Booking a couple rounds out there in 2 weeks

It's good. A couple blind shots.

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Why a $20?

Hah, I don't know, it's just the visual I get. Maybe I'd swing it cleaner if I made it a $100...

[Winsor_Pilates]

Originally Posted by Heavy Jack

Awesome; I’m on the grounds crew; if you ever want to get some time in at the practice facilities I don’t mind helping out some of my CP friends! I’m allowed to bring a guest along to access the driving range and putting greens without a green fee

Thanks!
I live in Vancouver & I'm a member at Marine Drive, so I have unlimited practice facilities already, but that's a very kind offer!

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague

There are so many tips and methods for achieving largely the same thing that it seems to be about what clicks for your brain... the thing for me was imagining that the ball is sitting on a $20 bill and trying to hit that bill out of the bunker rather than the ball. Not that that's intended as advice for malcolm14k, who I'm sure is better than me, it's just my method.

That being said I now use one of the many available wide-sole wedges (Callaway Sure-Out) and it's borderline cheating. But the trade-off there is a bit less distance control, so it's more of a solution for those of us who are always satisfied with a "ball on green somewhere" result and getting it close is a windfall.

I've used one of those and yeah it feels like straight up cheating, haha. I don't use it anymore, went back to a proper sand wedge and rely on proper skill getting out of the sand trap.

[PepsiFree]

I find that kind of funny because I think the concept of “proper skill” negates the idea of there being a “proper sand wedge” (in the context of a sure-out not being one). A club might feel like cheating, but as mentioned, you sacrifice distance control for an easier out. Basically any wedge you use will have something it makes easy and something it sacrifices. I don’t think the Sure-out is remarkably different than a CB, Smart Sole, or CBX, and I think the smartest players choose the ones that work for them, and will choose clubs that “feel like cheating” because they do exactly what they want to do easier than other clubs.

The only reason to use a club you think is harder to use is because it does something you want it to do that the “easier” club doesn’t or doesn’t do as easily. There’s no skill points for choosing clubs you play worse with.

[indes]

Went out for the first round of golf for a buddies 40th. I didn't know the other guys but they insisted we play from the tips. I've never played from the tips before, because why would I? Only 1 guy shot under 100 (95). Why do people do this? Obviously I still had fun getting out, but boy does the game get harder when you move back a tee box. I'm probably a 22-24HCP so won't be playing from back there again lol

Edit: I shot a 108 and then the other 2 guys shot 104 and then my buddy shot a 95.

[fotze2]

Originally Posted by indes

Went out for the first round of golf for a buddies 40th. I didn't know the other guys but they insisted we play from the tips. I've never played from the tips before, because why would I? Only 1 guy shot under 100 (95). Why do people do this? Obviously I still had fun getting out, but boy does the game get harder when you move back a tee box. I'm probably a 22-24HCP so won't be playing from back there again lol

Edit: I shot a 108 and then the other 2 guys shot 104 and then my buddy shot a 95.

I hate hero golf guy who isn't all that good. I bet he has very expensive clubs too. I have learned to just say "well I'm not playing tips, have atter".

I do feel bad when a scratch/good golfer plays my blue/whites to be polite.

[Winsor_Pilates]

Originally Posted by indes

Went out for the first round of golf for a buddies 40th. I didn't know the other guys but they insisted we play from the tips. I've never played from the tips before, because why would I? Only 1 guy shot under 100 (95). Why do people do this? Obviously I still had fun getting out, but boy does the game get harder when you move back a tee box. I'm probably a 22-24HCP so won't be playing from back there again lol

Edit: I shot a 108 and then the other 2 guys shot 104 and then my buddy shot a 95.

Those guys shouldn't even be playing there.
Actual good golfers who play from the tips wouldn't tell you to join them, they'd understand each person playing the appropriate tees.

The little bit of extra time of having multiple tee boxes is easily compensated by the saved pace of play in playing your appropriate distance.

[bossy22]

I've noticed when we get behind a group of young guys playing from the tips, we are in for a long round. It's not the seniors that hold things up, it's these guys. I like where tee box recommendation is based on handicap and not how far you can sometimes crush the ball.

[Nufy]

I play with a guy who started playing golf later in life.

As a beginner we would say...play from the reds if you want,,,it will help your game.

While time went on he got better and started beating us...fine for sure but the cockiness became a bit much.

Every time...(How many strokes did I beat you by today...you should practice more...)

Then one day we all agreed..."no more reds for you...come back and play with the rest of us"

No more stroke per hole advantage.

Quite the humbling experience

I understand taking a break when you are trying to learn but boasting a win like you won the masters became a bit much to deal with.

[indes]

Originally Posted by bossy22

I've noticed when we get behind a group of young guys playing from the tips, we are in for a long round. It's not the seniors that hold things up, it's these guys. I like where tee box recommendation is based on handicap and not how far you can sometimes crush the ball.

It's definitely just dumb. I can drive the ball 250-260 into the fairway fine, but having 150+ approach shots every time definitely slows me down. I don't care about what I shot but I would be surprised if I get onto the green 30% from 150+.

When they insisted I at least thought they would be good haha. Oh well, it was quiet on the course so we didn't slow anyone down.

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Switching tee boxes every now and again is fun IMO, but generally I'd rather move up a tee box and play a round without hitting driver than move back and end up playing for bogey half the time.

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

I find that kind of funny because I think the concept of “proper skill” negates the idea of there being a “proper sand wedge” (in the context of a sure-out not being one). A club might feel like cheating, but as mentioned, you sacrifice distance control for an easier out. Basically any wedge you use will have something it makes easy and something it sacrifices. I don’t think the Sure-out is remarkably different than a CB, Smart Sole, or CBX

Yes - although, I do use CBX 52 and 60 degree wedges in addition to that 56 Sure-out and outside of being slightly more clunky to open up and play semi-flops or flops etc, they really don't sacrifice very much. Even then, I have a TM hi-toe 60 and a CBX4 Zipcore 60 and the difference in "playability", if you want to think about it that way, isn't significant - I can still open the 60 up if I want to, I just usually don't because that way lies madness.

When it comes to the "cheater" clubs, the ones designed to make an aspect of the game easy, the tradeoff usually seem to be that they do that exact thing well and are worse for other things you might use that club for. Wide sole wedges are the exception, though, because the same design that is intended to keep them from digging into sand also makes them easier not to flub when chipping around the green, and they're no more difficult or weird to hit from normal wedge distances with a full or partial swing. Until you get into low handicap territory, the benefits just seem to massively outweigh the tradeoffs, IMO.

[GioforPM]

People, especially 30-50 year olds, generally play off the wrong tees. It's not about how far you can hit it when everything goes right.

Reluctance to be different screws it up too. Me included. I often end up playing blue when I'm white based on handicap and typical distance off the tee. That said, it's mostly a fault of my usual partners who should also be off whites (they are better than me but not by that much).

[Lubicon]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

People, especially 30-50 year olds, generally play off the wrong tees. It's not about how far you can hit it when everything goes right.

Reluctance to be different screws it up too. Me included. I often end up playing blue when I'm white based on handicap and typical distance off the tee. That said, it's mostly a fault of my usual partners who should also be off whites (they are better than me but not by that much).

I've accepted this fact but it's not always easy when you are playing with buddies. I won't play the tips (ever) but we all probably play one tee too far back than we should. When it's just my wife and I it's easier to swallow my pride and play a set that works better for me. Also makes it easier to out drive her!

Last time we got paired up with another couple and he was playing a mid set of tees so I joined him. Didn't take long before I said that wasn't working for me and I moved up a set.

[DoubleK]

If you are playing the tips, you better be a single digit unless it's an Ironman tournament of something like that.

[Voodooman]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

People, especially 30-50 year olds, generally play off the wrong tees. It's not about how far you can hit it when everything goes right.

Reluctance to be different screws it up too. Me included. I often end up playing blue when I'm white based on handicap and typical distance off the tee. That said, it's mostly a fault of my usual partners who should also be off whites (they are better than me but not by that much).

This makes no sense to me, outside of the obvious male ego thing. Isn't golf frustrating enough without being a mile back all day?

I look at it as I'd like to have an 7 iron or less into the green on an average par 4, when I've hit a reasonable drive. I've never been a gorilla, generally get it off the tee in the 220 range, can be 250 if I connect. Why would I want to play from a tee where every par 4 is over 400 yards, leaving me with 180 in when I hit a good drive?

I swallowed the ego a long time ago, and look at the distance as where can I play from that gives me the best chance for enjoying the round. Obviously, some of you are more serious, and have to maintain a legit number, but for the average hacker, why buy the aggravation?

[squiggs96]

I really like how Mickelson National does the tee boxes. Instead of using colours, they have numbers (Roman numerals, actually) from 1-6 (I-VI). This comes with a lot of advantages. You can dramatically change the course you are playing by varying the tee boxes. Guys/seniors/juniors (I am guessing) are more likely to play the appropriate tee boxes because they aren't red/yellow/pink; they are just IV or V.

My game is going very well right now. I birdied one hole and just missed a birdie putt on the next hole. On the following hole I put my drive in the water and then took three attempts to get out of the green side bunker. Classic Squiggs.