Russia invades Ukraine

[Firebot]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1567508891193286656

[CroFlames]

Imagine being a Russian grunt right now trying to hold a position while getting whooped by advanced NATO weapons.

What could possibly be your motivation to stay and fight?

Even if you cared that deeply about the poor Ukrainian civilian being subjugated by their Nazi government, do you really want to die defending and liberating them?

[mikephoen]

Originally Posted by CroFlames

Imagine being a Russian grunt right now trying to hold a position while getting whooped by advanced NATO weapons.

What could possibly be your motivation to stay and fight?

Even if you cared that deeply about the poor Ukrainian civilian being subjugated by their Nazi government, do you really want to die defending and liberating them?

Your motivation is that you'll be executed if you go AWOL, and there could be blowback to your family back home as well.

[Firebot]

Originally Posted by CroFlames

Imagine being a Russian grunt right now trying to hold a position while getting whooped by advanced NATO weapons.

What could possibly be your motivation to stay and fight?

Even if you cared that deeply about the poor Ukrainian civilian being subjugated by their Nazi government, do you really want to die defending and liberating them?

Imagine you were that Su-25 pilot that went down.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1567541379357708289

Now Kherson front has been very silent, but very much not because of Russian wins, total blackout still remains with little glimpses mostly from the Russian side on how poorly things are going

https://twitter.com/user/status/1567532184449286147

https://twitter.com/user/status/1567536800717049856

https://twitter.com/user/status/1567538768214646787

Rybar hasn't updated their Kherson maps in recent days for Baron to repost, seems they got preoccupied with other recent events and busy trying to find a positive narrative out of the Kharkiv debacle.

[Pointman]

Russian media report that "Ukrainians won't be able to hold on their newly-won positions near Kharkiv". You can tell things are not going well for Russia.

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by Pointman

You can tell things are not going well for Russia.

good

[burn_this_city]

Big day on the Oryx list.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1567622172444590087

[Pointman]

"Russian forces are in tough spot at Kharkiv area". It's on Russian main search engine front page right now (roughly equivalent of yahoo.com main page). First time ever something like this comes up on the mainstream media.

Wow, even Tsargrad - a channel owned by a close friend of Dugin, where both him and his daughter featured prominently - is now reporting that "current losses near Kharkiv reveal problems that have been talked about for months". Nothing even close to this have been in mainstream and pro-Z media until now. Of course they try to spin it with "Russians have triumphantly blocked the Ukrainian's attempt to advance" and "elite Chechen forces are about to join in and inflict a devastating defeat to Ukranians", but they quite openly admit "serious problems".

https://m-by.tsargrad.tv/news/voenko...zhjoloj_620628

[driveway]

Originally Posted by Firebot

https://twitter.com/user/status/1567085320981696512

The United States suffered 58,220 casualties as a result of the Vietnam War, the United States archive officially lists 40,943 of them as "killed in action" and another 5,299 as "died of wounds."

https://www.archives.gov/research/mi...lty-statistics

[afc wimbledon]

Originally Posted by driveway

The United States suffered 58,220 casualties as a result of the Vietnam War, the United States archive officially lists 40,943 of them as "killed in action" and another 5,299 as "died of wounds."

https://www.archives.gov/research/mi...lty-statistics

Yes but over 14 years, not 6 months

[driveway]

Originally Posted by afc wimbledon

Yes but over 14 years, not 6 months

Yeah, that's really the thing, isn't it?

I recall either hearing or reading a quote somewhere, it might have been in a Dan Carlin podcast, or possibly in "The End" by Ian Kershaw about how the Germans managed to keep fighting for so long.

It was from a German, speaking about the American advance after D-Day.

"If these Americans spent lives the way the Russians do, they'd be in Berlin in a week."

[GordonBlue]

I'm still amazed how when this started I totally bought into the propaganda of the Russian war machine.
I didn't think Ukraine had a chance and Kiev would fall in a week.

I could not be happier that I was so ill informed and wrong.

From Zelenskyy's leadership and diplomatic skills all the way down to the average citizens devotion to country and people.

I know it's not over, and the recovery is going to be really hard, but the last few days have been great to see.

[Firebot]

Rybar is panicking, and provides the Russia propaganda narrative in a way only a Russia propagandist social network can. Ukraine saw weakness and went after the guys that have batons and shields and that you cannot defend everything.

Rybar
4 hours ago
�������� Speaking globally about the current stage of the war in Ukraine, we do not believe that the attack on Kherson is a military trick designed to divert attention from Kharkov. The command of the Armed Forces of Ukraine alternately puts pressure on all possible pain points. Undercover intelligence of Ukrainians on the ground gives an excellent idea of ​​what is happening at the front. Despite all the seemingly mistakes and miscalculations of the Ukrainian command, the reports on the ground simply emphasize the possibilities: for example, in this sector there are now mobilized unshot recruits, and here the Russian Guard with batons and shields. Let's go here. And this pressure happens consistently. The Armed Forces of Ukraine have enough forces and means. When the task is to fill up the front with "meat", whose purpose is to die heroically for the glory of Ukraine, you can not spare people and equipment. They will put and mobilize more. Russian troops are selflessly good at defense and counterattack. But in a war where you are covered with meat, and denunciations to the SBU fly from every doorway, you cannot constantly defend yourself and counterattack in secondary areas. Both the attack on Kherson and the attack on Kharkov proved that there were no secondary directions for them. #Russia #Ukraine #Kharkov #Kherson
@rybar

I would love to hear Baron's take on the current situation. UA numbers show 640 KIA just today alone including 32 pieces of artillery. A lieutenant colonel and hundreds to thousands of soldiers captured in a single day. Both Izyium and Kupyiansk (yes they have moved this fast) in imminent danger of attack encirclement.

Defense of Ukraine chimes in today.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1567757988252815360

[Firebot]

Warmonitor3 has been one of the most reliable sources of up to date information on the war as he constantly monitors telegram on all sides has contacts within the UA and tries to discern the situation, one of the best accounts to follow. The current developments are fast and extensive. A complete breakthrough and a rout.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1567862024196980738

https://twitter.com/user/status/1567877782113222658

[IliketoPuck]

Originally Posted by Firebot

Warmonitor3 has been one of the most reliable sources of up to date information on the war as he constantly monitors telegram on all sides has contacts within the UA and tries to discern the situation, one of the best accounts to follow. The current developments are fast and extensive. A complete breakthrough and a rout.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1567862024196980738

https://twitter.com/user/status/1567877782113222658

@noclador is another excellent source, although there are probably about half a dozen I routinely check in with.

[opendoor]

Originally Posted by driveway

The United States suffered 58,220 casualties as a result of the Vietnam War, the United States archive officially lists 40,943 of them as "killed in action" and another 5,299 as "died of wounds."

https://www.archives.gov/research/mi...lty-statistics

The 50K estimate for Russian KIA is almost certainly inflated. At the normal 3:1 wounded to killed ratio, Russia's entire invasion force would have been wiped out with those numbers. Most 3rd party estimates I've seen suggest about half that number of killed.

But even that amount is catastrophic compared to any of their wars since WWII. In 10 years in Afghanistan, they only had about 15K killed.

[burn_this_city]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1567887786518142979

[burn_this_city]

Originally Posted by opendoor

The 50K estimate for Russian KIA is almost certainly inflated. At the normal 3:1 wounded to killed ratio, Russia's entire invasion force would have been wiped out with those numbers. Most 3rd party estimates I've seen suggest about half that number of killed.

But even that amount is catastrophic compared to any of their wars since WWII. In 10 years in Afghanistan, they only had about 15K killed.

There was a report released in Russia yesterday outlining the amount of money paid out for KIAs, the total divided by the payout per loss totalled 48,000.

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by opendoor

The 50K estimate for Russian KIA is almost certainly inflated.

Yes, the figure seems to combine KIAs and wounded.

After six months of war, the Russian and Ukrainian armies are both bruised and battered. Perhaps 15,000 Russians have been killed and 45,000 have been wounded, said Bill Burns, the head of the cia, last month. Ukrainian casualties were only “a little less”, he estimated.

https://www.economist.com/europe/202...-more-soldiers

[burn_this_city]

Only searched for a minute can't find the original source, but this is the internal document I was referencing.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1567805716399886337