Israel declares war on Hamas

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Originally Posted by Spurs

There is nothing inciting about the post at all.

Casting Israelis as white colonialists who arrived on boats when the population is and AFAIK has always been (at least in my lifetime) majority Mizrahi is obviously...

... Sigh. You know what, what's the point. If you read that post and nodded sagely and thought "that's a legitimate criticism", there's no talking to you anyway.

[Spurs]

Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague

Casting Israelis as white colonialists who arrived on boats when the population is and AFAIK has always been (at least in my lifetime) majority Mizrahi is obviously...

... Sigh. You know what, what's the point. If you read that post and nodded sagely and thought "that's a legitimate criticism", there's no talking to you anyway.

Where in this post is any of that stuff mentioned:

Originally Posted by PsYcNeT

It's funny that Q and Pepsi aren't allowed to be emotive about it, but our resident Zionists can froth for days and bay for blood with nary a verbal handslap from the handwringing gallery.

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

EDIT: Why do I let myself get drawn into these things.

[Spurs]

Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague

That wasn't - as you well know - the post that Jbo was referring to as "inciting". I have no idea what you're trying to accomplish here but it's a waste of everyone's time, including mine. Have a nice night.

It was the post he quoted.

So now I am expected to ignore the post that he quoted and read his mind to magically guess which post he was talking about?

That isn't how message boards work.

But yes I agree if you are just going to make #### it it is a waste of time.

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Meh, maybe I was wrong. It's not worth arguing about either way. Have a good night.

[Snuffleupagus]

Originally Posted by Blaster86

He's had two people tell him to go to Palestine and see what him saying what he says here, there, implying he will get killed.


He's being a bit dramatic about it, but it was said.

Hardy saying these people would be happy if he was killed

[blankall]

Originally Posted by PsYcNeT

"Not allowed" used in relation to the milquetoast tut-tutting they get for saying "maybe this is bad/disproportionate" while the ghouls scream "#### AROUND, FIND OUT" while watching buildings literally crush a population that's nearly 50% under 18

People absolutely jumped down my throat, about a year ago, for saying Hamas, and not Israel, controlled the Gaza Strip. And now, in the context of beheaded babies, we're having a discussion about the nuances of "from the river to the sea".

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Originally Posted by Snuffleupagus

Hardy saying these people would be happy if he was killed

What else is implied by telling someone you wish they'd go to Gaza and repeat what they're posting to Hamas besides the inevitability that they would come to harm?

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Snuffleupagus

Hardy saying these people would be happy if he was killed

One said he wished I experienced the terrorist attack firsthand and the one said he’d love to see me say what I said in front of Hamas after talking about them putting posters heads on spikes.

And nobody asked you.

[Nage Waza]

Originally Posted by Spurs

The fact that a few here want to categorize legitimate criticism of Israel as a dogpile is a major problem with the discussion. If we just claim that any criticism of Israel or their policies is a dogpile or Anti-Semitism then we have no chance of having a worthwhile discussion.

It isn't legit criticism, much of it is vile revisionism that does not reflect reality. Want to talk facts, we are all up for it. Spreading misinformation or being silent on other details, that isn't debate, they are lies that contribute to the protests where people support Hamas.

Your second sentence is a classic anti-Semite dog whistle, say it enough and you drown out legit criticism of vile hate speech. It is 2023, if you spread it, you will be called out for it. The truth is available if you read, otherwise, stay out.

Years ago in this site those that cried out against Hamas were the absolute minority, people reveled in calling me names here for being a 'zionist', or a reasonable target for Hamas (since I am jewish). Most of them are silent this week or were long banned from the site. Other are finally stepping up and saying ENOUGH.

[PsYcNeT]

Actually it was me (another Jewish person) who said you were a Zionist and ridiculed your takes on wanting to murder and oppress Palestinians, but I assume I'm blocked.

[WCW Nitro]

Originally Posted by Nage Waza

It isn't legit criticism, much of it is vile revisionism that does not reflect reality. Want to talk facts, we are all up for it. Spreading misinformation or being silent on other details, that isn't debate, they are lies that contribute to the protests where people support Hamas.

Your second sentence is a classic anti-Semite dog whistle, say it enough and you drown out legit criticism of vile hate speech. It is 2023, if you spread it, you will be called out for it. The truth is available if you read, otherwise, stay out.

Years ago in this site those that cried out against Hamas were the absolute minority, people reveled in calling me names here for being a 'zionist', or a reasonable target for Hamas (since I am jewish). Most of them are silent this week or were long banned from the site. Other are finally stepping up and saying ENOUGH.

Still waiting for you to show the misinformation that i spread, btw

[Nage Waza]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

One said he wished I experienced the terrorist attack firsthand and the one said he’d love to see me say what I said in front of Hamas after talking about them putting posters heads on spikes.

And nobody asked you.

Oh your poor avatar. Go watch a pro Palestinian protest and share with us what they say in real life about Jews. Or what actually happens to Jews when given a chance...Ask me what it is like this week, or any other week, when congregating with other Jews. Last night we needed military protection, in Calgary. What do you think causes that? Yup, misinformation, propaganda and hate speech.

On a side note, threats aren't reasonable.

You have been chirping away against Israel, sharing the same misinformation as the others, avoiding real debate. We get it, you hate Israel.

You know what they call judging Israel differently from other nations?

[Nage Waza]

Originally Posted by PsYcNeT

Actually it was me (another Jewish person) who said you were a Zionist and ridiculed your takes on wanting to murder and oppress Palestinians, but I assume I'm blocked.

I have never had a take on murdering Palestinians. So again, back to name calling. Now I want people murdered? Going to find a citation for that bold statement?

I haven't every blocked anyone.

[Nage Waza]

Originally Posted by WCW Nitro

Still waiting for you to show the misinformation that i spread, btw

Your knowledge on this subject is below zero, people told you, now grow up and learn.

[Bleeding Red]

[QUOTE=_Q_;8840043But we all know, white people don't just simply immigrate and become a minority in non white lands. They colonize, exploit and implement apartheid.[/QUOTE]

And now who is being racist?

Not all Jews are white. The majority in Israel right now are Mizarachi - with origins in the Middle East (Yemen, Morocco, Iran, Iraq, Egypt) and Mediterranean (Spain, Portugal). As a matter of fact, a lot of the recent internal strife has been about the divide between the majority Miazrachi community and the Ashkenazim community.

Of course let's no forget the Jews of Ethiopian origin, or Indian origin (Bene Menashe).

And again with the apartheid slur. Amnesty International opted to change the definition of the word to suit their accusation rather than accept that it was wrong. All Israeli citizens have the same rights and access to services and rule of law same as Canadian citizens here. Palestinians are not barred from professions (Doctor, Lawyer, etc), not barred from owning land or selling that land to whomever they want, there are no Palestinian only beaches, arenas, parks. I wonder what Israeli Supreme Court Justices Khaled Kabub and Abdel Rahman Zuabi(temporarily) would say to that.

Yes, life in Judea and Samaria is different. The Palestinians there are governed by the P.A. and subject to P.A. law in area A, while subject to Israeli Military law in areas B & C.

Let's talk about apartheid - the concept of racial segregation enshrined in law. Is it apartheid to ban a group from professions and bar them from owning land? It is. Yet you don't seem to upset about Lebanon doing this to the Palestinians there. Is it apartheid to ban the sale of your property to another identifiable group on pain of death? It is. Yet that law is on PA books. It seems apartheid is bad EXCEPT when is comes to the Jews.

[WCW Nitro]

Originally Posted by Nage Waza

Your knowledge on this subject is below zero, people told you, now grow up and learn.

Lol, so you have nothing,like I suspected

[gvitaly]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

One said he wished I experienced the terrorist attack firsthand and the one said he’d love to see me say what I said in front of Hamas after talking about them putting posters heads on spikes.

And nobody asked you.

Here's what I said:

Originally Posted by gvitaly

I wish you two were there and got to experience the events as they happened first hand.

IMO, if you were there, and got to witness everything, you wouldn't be half as vocal in trying to justify what happened. Don't try to spin this into me wishing you were killed. Hell if the Palestinians you're describing were as warm, cuddly, and innocent as you're trying to pretend you might even have a good time.

I bet you're one of those people that's asking what did the Jews do to provoke Hitler instead of simply acknowledging that such acts should not be allowed ever again.

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Originally Posted by Nage Waza

Oh your poor avatar. Go watch a pro Palestinian protest and share with us what they say in real life about Jews. Or what actually happens to Jews when given a chance...

None of this makes it remotely okay to tell someone you're interacting with that you want them to go do something that you imply would lead to them being grievously hurt or killed. You've gone straight off the deep end here, first by accusing someone of antisemitism for saying that criticism of Israeli policy shouldn't be conflated with antisemitism, and then by doing exactly what Psycnet did earlier with the "just admit it, you're motivated by hatred" garbage.

I was thinking about a page ago that despite a few descents into the muck this thread had actually held together better than I would have expected, but I guess I called that putt too early.

[Spurs]

Originally Posted by Nage Waza

It isn't legit criticism, much of it is vile revisionism that does not reflect reality. Want to talk facts, we are all up for it. Spreading misinformation or being silent on other details, that isn't debate, they are lies that contribute to the protests where people support Hamas.

Your second sentence is a classic anti-Semite dog whistle, say it enough and you drown out legit criticism of vile hate speech. It is 2023, if you spread it, you will be called out for it. The truth is available if you read, otherwise, stay out.

Years ago in this site those that cried out against Hamas were the absolute minority, people reveled in calling me names here for being a 'zionist', or a reasonable target for Hamas (since I am jewish). Most of them are silent this week or were long banned from the site. Other are finally stepping up and saying ENOUGH.

Bull ####.

Quote a single post of mine that is Anti-Semitic or even close. You can’t so you make a bull #### statement that I am dogwhistling based on absolutely nothing.