Flames 2014 Summer Development Camp July 4 - July 9

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by Rick M.

Do we actually know Johnny's true height? I've seen him listed at 5'7" to 5'9".

Probably not. But more to the point, I'm not convinced it matters all that much. People fixate on his stature because it is anomalous, but Gaudreau doesn't seem to be limited by it. whether he ends up playing at 5'7" or 5'9", or at 160 or 170 lbs, in the end he will succeed or fail not because of his size, but because of how good he is.

[Igster]

Originally Posted by puckedoff

Are there prospects other than Johnny Hockey in this dev camp?

No.

[StrykerSteve]

Originally Posted by howard_the_duck

Absolutely, I think his name is in the mix for this. I am not arguing against his tantalizing skill. I just caution anyone calling him the Flames best prospect ever.

I like your example of Kovalev. Another example of a prospect with extremely gifted puck skills was Ales Hemsky. The Oilers hype is always extra "special", but he was touted as their most skilled prospect ever (by MacT I think?).

Skill is great, and we've had such a shortage of it through the prospect pipeline for so many years now, I certainly get why people are excited, myself included.





You are correct.

Here's the thing with Johnny: he is the biggest wild card in the organization. If everything works out perfectly, if his small stature plays well at the NHL level the way he has everywhere else, then he's a blue chip prospect as good as any other in the organization right now.

But there's also the flip side. The kid is smaller than any prospect I've ever seen - he's built like a 15 year old kid. And maybe the cerebral nature of his game will allow this to be a non-issue - who can possibly know right now?

For any undersized player it's an uphill battle, but for Johnny even more. I don't think we've seen a player as small as him EVER in the NHL. I know people will point to Gerbe, but he's 25 lbs heavier than Johnny on an even shorter frame. So I guess my long-winded point is in order for Johnny to reach star status in the NHL, he'll have to do something that has rarely if ever been done before.

Byron is smaller.

[Bandwagon In Flames]

Morgan Klimchuk sure can talk a mile a minute. He could become the ultimate trash talker. Really rooting for the kid, he has a well rounded game and also seems to have a well rounded personality.

[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by StrykerSteve

Byron is smaller.

Thank you for pointing out the elephant in the room people are missing. The handwringing over size is crazy when there is another thread about the importance of a signing for a guy who is smaller and accomplished so much less in his hockey career. Gaudreau is on a different plane of existence to most smaller players. His smarts, speed and instincts make him like no other player I have ever seen in a Flames jersey. Calling this kid special is a gross understatement of his gifts.

[Wastedyouth]

Originally Posted by puckedoff

Are there prospects other than Johnny Hockey in this dev camp?

[Caged Great]

Here with Dan. Watching Michael Ferland skating. Excitement

[FlameZilla]

Originally Posted by Caged Great

Here with Dan. Watching Michael Ferland skating. Excitement

Excellent news... What was his injury again? Shoulder?

[Roof-Daddy]

Originally Posted by FlameZilla

Excellent news... What was his injury again? Shoulder?

Knee.

[StrykerSteve]

Originally Posted by Caged Great

Here with Dan. Watching Michael Ferland skating. Excitement

Save me a seat, I'm omw

[Cali Panthers Fan]

Originally Posted by StrykerSteve

Save me a seat, I'm omw

It doesn't happen often, but it's times like this I wish I was still living in Calgary.

[Caged Great]

Done. I'm in the middle section back row

[StrykerSteve]

Originally Posted by Cali Flames Fan

It doesn't happen often, but it's times like this I wish I was still living in Calgary.

If it makes you feel any better I feel like I'm hitting every stoplight in the city. Aargh.

[Da_Chief]

Originally Posted by StrykerSteve

If it makes you feel any better I feel like I'm hitting every stoplight in the city. Aargh.

Forum Posting and Driving. I'm telling!

[Muta]

Damn regular work hours on a Monday! I'd love to be there today.

[Lonestar]

Might be the only guy streaming this from Oklahoma, extremely excited. CP never disappoints, thanks for the updates everyone!


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[heep223]

Stream isn't working. Team tweeted that they're working on getting it back up.

[FlatLandFlamesFan]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

Probably not. But more to the point, I'm not convinced it matters all that much. People fixate on his stature because it is anomalous, but Gaudreau doesn't seem to be limited by it. whether he ends up playing at 5'7" or 5'9", or at 160 or 170 lbs, in the end he will succeed or fail not because of his size, but because of how good he is.

This.

A player whom is 6 foot whatever and built like a tank can still fail at the NHL level (see Lindros B.)
Theo was probably the toughest/nastiest player pound for pound in the the league when he played, but those days are gone smaller player shouldn't have to prove how tough they are just how good they are.

[Savvy27]

nm

[Street Pharmacist]

Originally Posted by Lonestar

Might be the only guy streaming this from Oklahoma, extremely excited. CP never disappoints, thanks for the updates everyone!


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PIMking is in Oklahoma too no? Isn't Nickerjones from there too?