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[timun]

Originally Posted by Swift

Wouldn't it make more sense to say "converse" or just plain old "talk" in that instance?

How in the hell are people supposed to shift the paradigm if they merely "talk" rather than conversate?

[TorqueDog]

Originally Posted by WhiteTiger

What I find amusing about 'conversate' is that despite it being a real word, using it makes you sound like an ignorant idiot trying to use a 10 dollar word you don't understand.

... but it would only sound that way to ignorant idiots that don't know that "conversate" is a real word.

The real cause of the problem is two-fold: people using words that aren't suitable for their audience, and people with poor vocabularies in those audiences.

Originally Posted by timun

How in the hell are people supposed to shift the paradigm if they merely "talk" rather than conversate?

[you&me]

Originally Posted by TorqueDog

Conversate is the informal version of converse, they mean exactly the same thing.

As far as what's simpler, yeah, one of the things we try to focus on is not being too bloody wordy, and instead make our use of language more accessible to a wider range of people. When your goal is to get a message across to as many people as possible and have them understand it, simple language is generally better. Even in our technical documentation, we have validation tests that run against our PRs before merging to make sure that the language we use isn't too formal (eg: preferring contractions versus the full phrase [wasn't vs was not]).

That sounds like a great way to drill down on the KPIs when you means-test your project for value-add before going to market.

[CroFlames]

Originally Posted by Swift

Wouldn't it make more sense to say "converse" or just plain old "talk" in that instance?

How would you convey the fact that you have a useless MBA in that way though?

[Slava]

I can’t stand how often people say utilize instead of use.

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by Slava

I can’t stand how often people say utilize instead of use.

I try to utilize all corners of my lexicon

[GordonBlue]

Work related gear grinder.
I hate when I request a quote from a supplier and they assume it means they're getting the order.
for it happening this time, I was as nice as possible with both companies letting them know that they didn't get it, but they're still a bit salty about it.

[CaptainYooh]

Cra...

[DoubleF]

Originally Posted by Slava

I can’t stand how often people say utilize instead of use.

Utilize at least has the additional implication that the tool or skill you're using has utility and is useful.

But yes, in layman speak, use makes more sense.

But the "real word" thing is dumb. Masticate is a word, but you're a ####tard if you use it over chew. The one that I hated forever that finance guys used to tout was "fungible" instead of tangible. Those ####ers won with the concept of NFTs though.

[Mr.Coffee]

"your on mute"

it's been what, 3 years now?

There's a button with a mic. If there is a slash through it, nobody can hear you.

[timun]

Originally Posted by TorqueDog

... but it would only sound that way to ignorant idiots that don't know that "conversate" is a real word.

The real cause of the problem is two-fold: people using words that aren't suitable for their audience, and people with poor vocabularies in those audiences.

You know what would improve people's poor vocabularies? Putting dictionaries on the blockchain.

[timun]

Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee

"your on mute"

My on mute what?

[mrkajz44]

Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee

"your on mute"

it's been what, 3 years now?

There's a button with a mic. If there is a slash through it, nobody can hear you.

Eh - I usually don't mind this. I'd much rather someone be on mute and forget to turn their mic on than be that guy with the constant background noise who never mutes.

[Mr.Coffee]

Originally Posted by timun

My on mute what?

you're.

damnit.

[timun]

[TorqueDog]

Originally Posted by DoubleF

The one that I hated forever that finance guys used to tout was "fungible" instead of tangible.

But... those words have different meanings from each other.

Originally Posted by timun

You know what would improve people's poor vocabularies? Putting dictionaries on the blockchain.

You're off the Christmas card list.

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by DoubleF

Utilize at least has the additional implication that the tool or skill you're using has utility and is useful.

But yes, in layman speak, use makes more sense.

But the "real word" thing is dumb. Masticate is a word, but you're a ####tard if you use it over chew. The one that I hated forever that finance guys used to tout was "fungible" instead of tangible. Those ####ers won with the concept of NFTs though.

My response would be "What the heck do mushrooms have to do with finance?"

[bizaro86]

Originally Posted by DoubleF

The one that I hated forever that finance guys used to tout was "fungible" instead of tangible. Those ####ers won with the concept of NFTs though.

Those words mean two completely different things.

A synonym for fungible is substitutable.

A synonym for tangible is physical.

[DoubleF]

Well damn. I never actually looked up the definition of fungible. The guys I kept running into and hearing it from were trying to use it to replace a word like tangible rather than the ability to substitute it with an identical item. Perhaps a better layman word is interchangeable? Or is that still too far from substitutable?

My bad.

[Shazam]

Originally Posted by DoubleF

Well damn. I never actually looked up the definition of fungible. The guys I kept running into and hearing it from were trying to use it to replace a word like tangible rather than the ability to substitute it with an identical item. Perhaps a better layman word is interchangeable? Or is that still too far from substitutable?

My bad.

Oil is fungible.
Electricity is fungible.
Money is fungible.

Natural gas is not.