You Know What Really Grinds My Gears? Now with 3x more gears...

[ZedMan]

Related gear grinder; Uselessly large rims as standard equipment these days. Worse ride, minimal handling improvements past 17", costs an arm and leg to replace tires.

[TorqueDog]

Originally Posted by ZedMan

Related gear grinder; Uselessly large rims as standard equipment these days. Worse ride, minimal handling improvements past 17", costs an arm and leg to replace tires.

The problem is that as vehicles become heavier and more powerful, the braking capability required to cope with those increases goes up too.

At a minimum, I can run 19" wheels on my RRS (20" stock) and my AM (19" stock), because the factory brakes are simply too large to fit under an 18" wheel. But it definitely sucks and I feel your pain.

[ZedMan]

Sure but those vehicles are massive outliers. The average crossover does not have brakes large enough to require that much clearance.

[Fuzz]

You can thank "aggressive" design.

“Large, widely spaced rims give the vehicle a better stance; they make the vehicle look more athletic and ‘ready to pounce,’” Cummings explained. “In the late 1970s, designers were drawing big rims on all their concept cars. Designers felt they looked sportier than whitewall tires and stamped wheel covers.”

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/driv...ep-on-growing/

[timun]

Meanwhile, I loooooooooooooooove raised white lettering on a meaty sidewall.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by Looch City

My little car cannot handle this “off-roading” in neighborhood roads due to the slowly melting ice. Pretty sure the suspension will be shot by the time April rolls around!

AB roads this time of year aren't made for little cars.

I was a coupe/sedan guy when I was younger but there is a natural progression to SUVs and trucks when you live here because practicality and safety wins out over low sporty cars in this environment.

That is unless you're sitting on multiple vehicles and have a designated summer ride.

[topfiverecords]

Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent

AB roads this time of year aren't made for little cars.

I was a coupe/sedan guy when I was younger but there is a natural progression to SUVs and trucks when you live here because practicality and safety wins out over low sporty cars in this environment.

That is unless you're sitting on multiple vehicles and have a designated summer ride.

Nah, a decent sedan is better for safety and is also just fine for practicality unless you have 3 kids, a dog and take everything you own everywhere you go.

[timun]

Originally Posted by you&me

Worth a shot -

https://www.calgary.ca/appeals/damage-claims.html

Originally Posted by timun

Already on it.

But yeah, for those among us who didn't know, you may be able to get the City to cover some or all of your repairs. I already verified the pothole had been reported on 311; going to snap some photos of the pothole this afternoon. When I hit it there were no cones or anything to warn of it, and it happened to be just the right time of morning to disappear in a shadow...

Claim submitted!

[81MC]

Originally Posted by timun

Meanwhile, I loooooooooooooooove raised white lettering on a meaty sidewall.

Ohhh hell yes.

[DoubleF]

"Nothing complicated. Simple and basic."

*Explains what they want*

*In my head* Are you stupid? Tell me you're stupid.

EDIT: What kind of person responds to "What size are your wheels so that we can select the tires." with "I don't know. Can we just go look at your tires to see which one looks close enough? I don't want anything complicated. Just the most simple and basic tire to replace the old ones." When it's pointed out that the vehicle needing the tires is just outside in the parking lot, why the heck would you respond with, "Why does this need to be so complicated? Can't we just estimate something close enough?"

[Doctorfever]

Driving home yesterday, merging into stop and go traffic. Two idiots pass me and a few other vehicles on the shoulder to merge a few vehicles ahead. They basically got two or three car lengths ahead…. I am no Road rager, but if I was that would have been my time.

Guy must have been in a real hurry to get nowhere, I ended up passing him on the freeway later - he was driving at or below the speed limit. Moron.

[TorqueDog]

Originally Posted by DoubleF

"Nothing complicated. Simple and basic."

*Explains what they want*

*In my head* Are you stupid? Tell me you're stupid.

EDIT: What kind of person responds to "What size are your wheels so that we can select the tires." with "I don't know. Can we just go look at your tires to see which one looks close enough? I don't want anything complicated. Just the most simple and basic tire to replace the old ones." When it's pointed out that the vehicle needing the tires is just outside in the parking lot, why the heck would you respond with, "Why does this need to be so complicated? Can't we just estimate something close enough?"

Just quote them on 19" tires for 18" wheels. C'mon, they're close enough, the wheels will fit inside the tires after all.

Or quote them on 185/60/17s for a vehicle that is otherwise running 225/50/17s. Same overall diameter, cheaper, but it'll kinda look like the vehicle version of a pirate with a wooden leg.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by TorqueDog

The problem is that as vehicles become heavier and more powerful, the braking capability required to cope with those increases goes up too.

At a minimum, I can run 19" wheels on my RRS (20" stock) and my AM (19" stock), because the factory brakes are simply too large to fit under an 18" wheel. But it definitely sucks and I feel your pain.

It seems over the decades the optimum wheel size goes up one. I remember when 17" was ideal for performance/street, then it became 18", now it's 19" largely because 18's won't (with a typical factory offset) fit a lot of vehicles with big brakes. I'm not sure 20's will ever be optimal for cars (not counting extreme high performance cars) specifically because we were probably past the point of diminishing returns with 19" wheels. As far as SUV's and trucks go it's a little different because we are talking about raised vehicles but I'm not sure if people mover SUVs really need 20"+ wheels.

[DoubleF]

Originally Posted by TorqueDog

Just quote them on 19" tires for 18" wheels. C'mon, they're close enough, the wheels will fit inside the tires after all.

Or quote them on 185/60/17s for a vehicle that is otherwise running 225/50/17s. Same overall diameter, cheaper, but it'll kinda look like the vehicle version of a pirate with a wooden leg.

They're the jackass in front of me taking 20-30 minutes instead of 4-5 minutes.

Some people are absolutely brain dead. Like, you look around for hidden cameras but realize there's none brain dead. I used to think people saying stuff like, "Will this 65 inch tv fit inside my Corolla" type of thing was stupid and rare. Now I've heard enough variations to consider that it's uncommon... which is still too damn much!

I mean, it's not even a "it depends" situation. I was browsing in the Apple store once and I heard a lady ask if an iPad would fit in a purse. When asked what size purse, she proceeds to point at her clutch purse. It's a god damn dial tone in your head, isn't it?

Of the many things this seems to have in common, is it just me or does it seem like more people have completely zero spatial awareness recently?

[Swift]

Corporate nonsense speak GMGs. I'm in a meeting right now and I don't know if the person just misspoke or it this is an actual phrase that's gaining traction out there - "I just want to conversate about that for a minute"

Also "verbage" instead of "verbiage" has just been said by two different people.

[TorqueDog]

Conversate is a word, it literally just means "to have a conversation". So instead of "I just want to conversate about that for a minute" they could have said "I just want to have a conversation about that for a minute". Both make sense.

When I think "Corporate nonsense speak", I think back to when executives couldn't stop using the word "synergy" around us plebs during company town halls.

[Swift]

Wouldn't it make more sense to say "converse" or just plain old "talk" in that instance?

[81MC]

Talk implies speaking, not active conversation per se.
Converse implies with a specific individual maybe?

[TorqueDog]

Originally Posted by Swift

Wouldn't it make more sense to say "converse" or just plain old "talk" in that instance?

Conversate is the informal version of converse, they mean exactly the same thing.

As far as what's simpler, yeah, one of the things we try to focus on is not being too bloody wordy, and instead make our use of language more accessible to a wider range of people. When your goal is to get a message across to as many people as possible and have them understand it, simple language is generally better. Even in our technical documentation, we have validation tests that run against our PRs before merging to make sure that the language we use isn't too formal (eg: preferring contractions versus the full phrase [wasn't vs was not]).

[WhiteTiger]

Originally Posted by TorqueDog

Conversate is the informal version of converse, they mean exactly the same thing.

As far as what's simpler, yeah, one of the things we try to focus on is not being too bloody wordy, and instead make our use of language more accessible to a wider range of people. When your goal is to get a message across to as many people as possible and have them understand it, simple language is generally better. Even in our technical documentation, we have validation tests that run against our PRs before merging to make sure that the language we use isn't too formal (eg: preferring contractions versus the full phrase [wasn't vs was not]).

What I find amusing about 'conversate' is that despite it being a real word, using it makes you sound like an ignorant idiot trying to use a 10 dollar word you don't understand.