06-30-2019, 01:39 PM
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#681
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: CGY
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Quote:
Originally Posted by transplant99
LOL...he is on fire the last couple days.
Mike Commodore
@commie22
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My sources in Nashville have been blowing my phone up all morning......big news coming...the #Insiderrr is all over it. #ForThePeople
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He must have read Friedman’s article on Sportsnet last night
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06-30-2019, 01:49 PM
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#682
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Vinny01
He must have read Friedman’s article on Sportsnet last night
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Or Commy is Friedman's insider, he broke three or four trades at the deadline long before the media guys
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06-30-2019, 02:11 PM
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#683
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Djibouti
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Originally Posted by Textcritic
Last year the Stanley Cup championship St Louis Blues were paying over $10 m for their t#2 and #3 centres. There are lots of ways to make this work.
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Were they happy with their wing depth? They seemed to play well in the playoffs
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Originally Posted by transplant99
Its why the old sentiment that you can never have too many good C's is so true.
You can move them to the wing with ease, its way harder to go the other way though.
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Kadri is left handed. You're going to spend to get him then count on him playing in a new position, his off wing??
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06-30-2019, 02:19 PM
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#684
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Fearmongerer
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Wondering when # became hashtag and not a number sign.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike F
Were they happy with their wing depth? They seemed to play well in the playoffs
Kadri is left handed. You're going to spend to get him then count on him playing in a new position, his off wing??
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Where, in anything i posted, did you glean that information?
He immediately becomes the #2 C.
Lindholm stays on the right side with Monahan, Backlund centers the 3rd line, Jankowski can play wind and Ryan stays in the middle on the 4th or lines up on his strong side wing to take faceoffs on that side.
No need to pidgeon hole players just because they are C's...but as stated, its way easier to move from C to wing when needed (Bennett) than it is to move a winger to C because the defensive responsibilities are entirely different.
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06-30-2019, 02:30 PM
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#685
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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https://twitter.com/TheFourthPeriod/...468227072?s=09
I'm having a hard time believing that the Flames aren't kicking tires on Lehner. You make the cap room.
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06-30-2019, 02:42 PM
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#686
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Fearmongerer
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Wondering when # became hashtag and not a number sign.
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Originally Posted by dammage79
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Im sure they have looked into him...and were told that he wanted more money than BT was willing to pay, or he didnt want to play here/West.
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06-30-2019, 02:47 PM
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#687
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Threadkiller
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: 51.0544° N, 114.0669° W
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If you can do Kadri for Brodie plus, you do it, you take from an area of strength and distribute it to your weakness.
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06-30-2019, 02:48 PM
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#688
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Resident Videologist
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Calgary
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06-30-2019, 03:00 PM
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#689
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by dammage79
I'm amazed that the Flames regular season holds little to no currency for some. Thay was a major step forward for the team!
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It gets erased when that same team looks like a WHL vs an NHL team in the playoffs.
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06-30-2019, 03:03 PM
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#690
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chonger
It gets erased when that same team looks like a WHL vs an NHL team in the playoffs.
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No it does not. A lot of folks acting like this is the end of the process. No, it's the next step. So many good teams struggle in the playoffs and then finally apex at the right time. See: Washington, Chicago, L.A, San Jose, St.Louis.
Our window literally just opened.
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06-30-2019, 03:07 PM
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#691
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dammage79
No it does not. A lot of folks acting like this is the end of the process. No, it's the next step. So many good teams struggle in the playoffs and then finally apex at the right time. See: Washington, Chicago, L.A, San Jose, St.Louis.
Our window literally just opened.
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Personally I think the window opened in 2016-17, but GG and Cameron tried their hardest (and succeeded) at holding the shutters closed. Those two lost years won't be given back, but the Flames are still in a good position to do damage this year, so long as they keep the gang mostly together over the summer.
I don't have a lot of faith in sustained success once Giordano loses to Father Time but the way that is going it could be 3-4 years before that happens. It could also be this October, you never know.
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06-30-2019, 03:11 PM
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#692
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bigrangy
Personally I think the window opened in 2016-17, but GG and Cameron tried their hardest (and succeeded) at holding the shutters closed. Those two lost years won't be given back, but the Flames are still in a good position to do damage this year, so long as they keep the gang mostly together over the summer.
I don't have a lot of faith in sustained success once Giordano loses to Father Time but the way that is going it could be 3-4 years before that happens. It could also be this October, you never know.
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I like where the D corps is at right now. We have 4 amazing young pieces to revamp the core with. As long as they're managed well enough their progression matches in step with an inevitable decline in Gio.
And I think that's the plan. Yeah someone like Frolik or Brodie or Hamonic will have to move but overall I dont see the Dlanes carving this core up deeply.
I suspect Treliving has a new fancy rabbit up his sleeve for his next trick tomorrow or this week.
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06-30-2019, 03:14 PM
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#693
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Scoring Winger
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Originally Posted by dammage79
No it does not. A lot of folks acting like this is the end of the process. No, it's the next step. So many good teams struggle in the playoffs and then finally apex at the right time. See: Washington, Chicago, L.A, San Jose, St.Louis.
Our window literally just opened.
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Conversation at my water cooler point to folks bring concerned that the flames overachieved in the regular season last year and the playoffs were a better reflection of what the flames will deliver in 19/20....with the added concern that (due to cap constraints) the team will lose more than it adds this off-season.
They might be out to lunch, but I think there is a “not immaterial” portion of the fan base that share this concern.
I hope you’re right, but we’ll have to see what (if any) rabbits BT can pull out of his hat in the next month.
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06-30-2019, 03:20 PM
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#694
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by CanadaMatt
Conversation at my water cooler point to folks bring concerned that the flames overachieved in the regular season last year and the playoffs were a better reflection of what the flames will deliver in 19/20....with the added concern that (due to cap constraints) the team will lose more than it adds this off-season.
They might be out to lunch, but I think there is a “not immaterial” portion of the fan base that share this concern.
I hope you’re right, but we’ll have to see what (if any) rabbits BT can pull out of his hat in the next month.
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There will be no rabbits IMO.
The Flames next year are like a player on a short term show me contract. Show me the regular season was legit and show me you learned something in the playoffs.
With most of their draft picks in their possession, I can also see a big win now move at the deadline.
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06-30-2019, 03:23 PM
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#695
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Park Hyatt Tokyo
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dammage79
I'm amazed that the Flames regular season holds little to no currency for some. Thay was a major step forward for the team!
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Regular season performances don’t matter if there aren’t signs this core can handle themselves come playoffs. I would be content with a 3rd place or wildcard finish if the team competed come playoffs. Then there’d be reason to maintain the main roster going forward and make minor changes.
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06-30-2019, 03:31 PM
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#696
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CanadaMatt
Conversation at my water cooler point to folks bring concerned that the flames overachieved in the regular season last year and the playoffs were a better reflection of what the flames will deliver in 19/20....with the added concern that (due to cap constraints) the team will lose more than it adds this off-season...
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Nothing about how the Flames played last year in the regular season would suggest that they "overachieved." They were a top team by almost every meaningful metric, but for a power play that suddenly dried up in February. Five games of playoff hockey in April is an extremely limited sample size from which to draw conclusions and to make projections.
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06-30-2019, 03:34 PM
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#697
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Acerbic Cyberbully
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Originally Posted by topfiverecords
Regular season performances don’t matter if there aren’t signs this core can handle themselves come playoffs. I would be content with a 3rd place or wildcard finish if the team competed come playoffs. Then there’d be reason to maintain the main roster going forward and make minor changes.
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I tend to think that a dramatic improvement from one season to the next actually matters quite a lot. Yes, the playoffs were disappointing, but the roster is still very young, and they took a meaningful step last year. My expectation is that they can take another one in 2020.
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06-30-2019, 03:34 PM
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#698
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: St. George's, Grenada
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Playoff performance can be taken as a learning experience. The team didn't play the way they did most of the year, and seemed to think they'd be able to coast through the first round, much like Tampa. It's not like that was the best they had to give and won't improve.
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06-30-2019, 03:35 PM
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#699
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Textcritic
Nothing about how the Flames played last year in the regular season would suggest that they "overachieved." They were a top team by almost every meaningful metric, but for a power play that suddenly dried up in February. Five games of playoff hockey in April is an extremely limited sample size from which to draw conclusions and to make projections.
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Somewhat agree, however the top line totally disappeared the last 10 to 15 games of the regular season and were very in-effective during the playoffs
If the Flames make zero roster moves on the forwards ranks, its a mistake in my opinion
They are to soft of a team.... Not sure how they fix this issue.
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06-30-2019, 03:42 PM
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#700
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Park Hyatt Tokyo
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Textcritic
I tend to think that a dramatic improvement from one season to the next actually matters quite a lot. Yes, the playoffs were disappointing, but the roster is still very young, and they took a meaningful step last year. My expectation is that they can take another one in 2020.
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Well, we’re going to be given pretty close to the same roster to watch this year so time will show if they can. The 2019-20 regular season performance will barely even matter in evaluating this team. It would take a catastrophic failure to miss the playoffs after finishing 2nd. Let’s talk again next May and we’ll see if they show improvement on the 5 game exit they just provided. But if they don’t, I think it’ll be time for most people to get onside with the debate about keeping Gaudreau/Monahan going forward.
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