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Old 03-24-2017, 01:50 PM   #6901
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The bill has been pulled. Americans will not get their healthcare fixed. Sad.
Right. Fixed. The same way I fix my cat.
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Right. Fixed. The same way I fix my cat.
I was going to put it in quotes but didn't think I needed to.

What an abortion of a bill...I'm surprised Texas Flames Fan was supportive of it.
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The what about argument isn't going to change my perspective. They kill hundreds of thousands of un born babies a year.

If Jeffrey Dahmer was a great guy that helped me build a deck and loaned me money and took me for lunch I wouldn't use that as a defense for him also eating people.

But he's such a good guy! He helped me! Its not like I know the people that he killed and ate!
What about the military killing Syrian children in air strikes?
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What about the military killing Syrian children in air strikes?
Whataboutisms - Liberal go to strategy.
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Whataboutisms - Liberal go to strategy.
Answer the question . . . You're OK with supporting an organization that repeatedly kills children in accidental air strikes, but you're against an organization that helps women abort U.S. citizen children?
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Old 03-24-2017, 01:57 PM   #6908
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Whataboutisms - Liberal go to strategy.
Actually its science, to call these abortions murder is a gross misunderstanding of a fetus.
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The what about argument isn't going to change my perspective. They kill hundreds of thousands of un born babies a year.
how about if PP only aborts babies of immigrants. would that make it better for you? seems like a compromise that may suit you.
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It must be easy to sleep at night with such an elementary, black & white view of the world.
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The what about argument isn't going to change my perspective. They kill hundreds of thousands of un born babies a year.

If Jeffrey Dahmer was a great guy that helped me build a deck and loaned me money and took me for lunch I wouldn't use that as a defense for him also eating people.

But he's such a good guy! He helped me! Its not like I know the people that he killed and ate!
I believe life is sacred! Well, not all life. Well, ok, not most life. Just a fetus. Once it's born I don't care if it dies.
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It's funny how much he runs to "fake news" to doing his bitching and moaning.

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Old 03-24-2017, 02:00 PM   #6913
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Answer the question . . . You're OK with supporting an organization that repeatedly kills children in accidental air strikes, but you're against an organization that helps women abort U.S. citizen children?
and any programs that help newborn children (healthcare), maternity leave for mothers, daycare for parents who work, etc, etc, etc...

He could care less, as long as he has a gun, a bible, and thinks a society is built on not caring about other people.

AM I RITE....
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We will immediately repeal and replace ObamaCare - and nobody can do that like me. We will save $'s and have much better healthcare!
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The what about argument isn't going to change my perspective. They kill hundreds of thousands of un born babies a year.
The issue is your view on the nature of abortion isn't shared by everyone, but you want to impose your view on everyone else.

Comparing abortion to murder is a false equivalence (a flawed method of reasoning), any argument made with this doesn't have much merit. This is because while murder is viewed as bad and worthy of punishment by the overwhelmingly vast majority of the society you live in, abortion isn't
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A Catholic Nun explains why if you are anti-abortion you are not necessarily pro-life

Basically, if you want a child to be born...but are opposed your tax dollars being allocated to supporting that child properly (healthcare, education, social support)...you are a hypocrite.

All for protecting life until it is out of the womb...then the kid is on their own.
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Whataboutisms - Liberal go to strategy.
What you quoted wasn't a whataboutism. Just because something has the words "what about" doesn't make it a whataboutism.
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7 years of whining. 7 years to craft legislation to address issues and have that passed (4 with essentially complete control of the houses though they'd have to stay centrist). 7 years to draft a whole new law. They couldn't do it.

Maybe the Dems should steal something from the Harper conservatives.

Republicans....Just not ready.

And the voting public...man there are a big chunk of you that aren't very smart but at least you finally figured out what the ACA did for you and you decided you don't want to lose it. Probably should have done that BEFORE the election you dimwits. Now you get to hope that the guys you did vote in don't destroy the place in the next 18 months.

I wonder if this is the catalyst for the moderates to start breaking away from the Tea Party and trump administration more and more.
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Old 03-24-2017, 02:07 PM   #6919
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A Catholic Nun explains why if you are anti-abortion you are not necessarily pro-life

Basically, if you want a child to be born...but are opposed your tax dollars being allocated to supporting that child properly (healthcare, education, social support)...you are a hypocrite.

All for protecting life until it is out of the womb...then the kid is on their own.
Thanks.
Actually, this is what the Catholic Church teaches, not jus anti-abortion, but respect for life from conception to natural death.
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Old 03-24-2017, 02:10 PM   #6920
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The what about argument isn't going to change my perspective. They kill hundreds of thousands of un born babies a year.

If Jeffrey Dahmer was a great guy that helped me build a deck and loaned me money and took me for lunch I wouldn't use that as a defense for him also eating people.

But he's such a good guy! He helped me! Its not like I know the people that he killed and ate!
How about:

To support your claim you need to provide some evidence the defunding planned parenthood would in fact decrease the net deaths. And lets use your criteria that a fetus counts.

So the first thing that happens is that the loss of cancer screening kills people.
Then the loss of free access to birth control increases the number of pregnancies.
Then we decrease pre-natal care which increases complications for babies and mothers.
Then we have a substitution affect where many of the abortions still occur do to self induced abortions, illegal abortions, and private funding of abortions.
Some abortions will likely not occur which will lead to undesired children born which when you have poor people being forced to have kids it correlates with an increased crime rate (Levitt)

So do you have any evidence that defunding planned parenthood will lead to a decrease in deaths of fetus's and people.
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