[News] Darryl Sutter out as Head Coach. Maloney presser at 11:30 AM MT

[calculoso]

Did anyone listen to the Eric Francis show today? Anyone remember Eric saying this?

https://twitter.com/user/status/1653122320352043009

https://twitter.com/fierybreadman/st...AKirBMh53Sl6sw

Eric Francis said that he knows that the #Flames# were trying to sign a bunch of college free agents but they didn't want to come to Calgary because of Sutter and him not playing the younger players.

[Sandman]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

RIP Gordon Lightfoot.

OT, but so what.

"Sundown" is one of my all-time favorite songs. RIP Gord.

[Sandman]

Originally Posted by calculoso

Did anyone listen to the Eric Francis show today? Anyone remember Eric saying this?

https://twitter.com/user/status/1653122320352043009

https://twitter.com/fierybreadman/st...AKirBMh53Sl6sw

Eric Francis said that he knows that the #Flames# were trying to sign a bunch of college free agents but they didn't want to come to Calgary because of Sutter and him not playing the younger players.

It was posted earlier. Does anyone have a list of all the college free agents that have been signed so far?

[GullFoss]

Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts

This is such a terrible reach because of your agenda against Huberdeau and blind faith in Sutter.

It's not just the team even respected reporters like Duha are saying this was the right move due to the atmosphere around the team.

This isn't the first time players have been vocal about halving Sutter fired he won 2 cups in LA and they couldn't wait until he was fired.

You think Murray Edwards is eating 8 million to pay someone not to coach because of Huberdeau and Kadri.

It's really not a reach. And I'm not saying that's what happened. We don't know what happened or how many players or to what extent. Im saying that if the group of players that led to Sutter's demise was small, Maloney would give you the same response than if it was a large group.

The only players we know that made their issues with Sutter public are Kadri and Huby. And based on their contract values and term remaining, that's probably enough to get the coach fired. You're not picking a coach with $8m of contract over two players with $140m.

Maybe there's more than two players, but it's all just been speculation based on garbage day interviews. Maybe there was also Backlund and Lindholm and others. But we haven't heard them or their agents say anything publicly.

[calculoso]

Originally Posted by Sandman

It was posted earlier. Does anyone have a list of all the college free agents that have been signed so far?

Thanks.. missed it

[flamesgod]

Originally Posted by DeluxeMoustache

Disagree.

You don’t even have to look much further than, well, Darryl Sutter to see what Darryl Sutter does

Iggy got 67 points under Sutter then the next year 94 in 70 games under Playfair (a 110 point pace), followed by a 98 point season

As Sutter was losing the room and his job in LA, Kopitar had 52 points, then when Sutter left, jumped up to 92

And Sutter played those guys in their proper position

No question he stifles his stars’ offense, asking them to sacrifice personal stats for the team

It’s kind of actually been his thing


(with the exception of two guys in contract years, 13 and 19, who said ‘#### this’ and had their line play a different game, which was so effective he really couldn’t do much different)

You sound like an Oilers fan. Personal stats are your preferred method of success? You just pointed out the two players that actually had the most team success under Sutter, so I’m not sure what you’re trying to prove? I wonder why Sutter was Iginla’s favourite coach then? Or how Kopitar stumbled his way into two cups?
Personally, I actually feel it’s time to move on from Sutter. He gave the veterans too much leash this year, when to me it’s pretty clear there are young guys ready to take over.
However, the narratives going around are getting crazy and tiresome. Is Sutter still a smart hockey guy? Yes. Do I concede it’s probably time for him to move on? You bet.

[keenan87]

I am glad that he is gone.

However, I was so excited when he came back. "Unfinished business" - the fans were so hyped.

Been a horrible 10-12 months for Flames fans. Hockey is supposed to be entertainment.

[DeluxeMoustache]

Originally Posted by flamesgod

You sound like an Oilers fan. Personal stats are your preferred method of success? You just pointed out the two players that actually had the most team success under Sutter, so I’m not sure what you’re trying to prove? I wonder why Sutter was Iginla’s favourite coach then? Or how Kopitar stumbled his way into two cups?
Personally, I actually feel it’s time to move on from Sutter. He gave the veterans too much leash this year, when to me it’s pretty clear there are young guys ready to take over.
However, the narratives going around are getting crazy and tiresome. Is Sutter still a smart hockey guy? Yes. Do I concede it’s probably time for him to move on? You bet.

Geez, this guy drops the gloves and goes straight below the belt

It was a direct response to somebody surprised that Huberdeau’s stats went down under Sutter, friend

[TOfan]

Originally Posted by dammage79

Tree had to go regardless of the Sutter outcome. I don't even know historically if any other GM came close to having 5 coaches in a ten year tenure. Granted circumstances around Peter's notwithstanding but yeah, Tree wasn't going to get a 6th coach.

Lot Lamorillo had a revolving door for a while in NJ.

[flamesgod]

Originally Posted by DeluxeMoustache

Geez, this guy drops the gloves and goes straight below the belt

It was a direct response to somebody surprised that Huberdeau’s stats went down under Sutter, friend

No, the other poster was right. I say this as a fan of Huberdeau. He simply wasn’t good enough. I’m glad he wasn’t making 10.5 this year because the lynch mob would’ve been out even more and rightfully so. Sutter definitely gets the blame for Huberdeau’s usage and line mates. But I can only think of two games this year where Huberdeau looked like a star. One against the Rangers, the other against Nashville. If he was able to look like a star for two games, surely he could’ve mustered it up for a lot more?

My point is, it’s not just about the stats. Iginla was still a dominant force under Sutter, despite less point production.

[TOfan]

Originally Posted by keenan87

I am glad that he is gone.

However, I was so excited when he came back. "Unfinished business" - the fans were so hyped.

Been a horrible 10-12 months for Flames fans. Hockey is supposed to be entertainment.

It still is.

[Ferarri]

Mixed feelings on the news and I guess it was inevitable given how the game has changed and the definition that Maloney provided regarding the modern NHL player. Personally I’m disappointed as I would rather have a character guy like Darryl than someone like Kadri who basically gave up down the stretch. Darryl is Calgary and has done so much for the organization and to be shown the door is tough to swallow. Could he have been better? Absolutely. Are his techniques suited for todays game? I guess not.

What doesn’t sit well is how players (via anonymous sources) stated they wouldn’t coke back or would demand trades etc. Maloney mentioned not letting the inmates run the asylum but in essence that’s exactly what happened. This group is tough to root for and I personally believe the frustrations that Sutter witnessed with this group will continue into next year. Yet hopefully there will be no more scapegoats and players will have to own it.

I wish Darryl the very best but feel like he got a raw deal (yes, he is certainly not without his faults) but now it’s up to Huberdeau, Kadri and the others to step up justify what Maloney had to do. It’s 100% on the leaders of this team moving forward. No more excuses.

[browna]

Originally Posted by Sandman

It was posted earlier. Does anyone have a list of all the college free agents that have been signed so far?

Crickets.

No matter, Francis (and Valji) sees this now as open season to use or blame anything within the organization or perceived about the organization on Sutter as an excuse, and, more importantly, his/their chance to try and get a gig somewhere else because he guessed midseason and things came somewhat true, so he's a savant insider now....so the piling on will commence without Sutter around.

Next up, the new building wasn't going to be built becuase of Sutter.

[Vinny01]

I am glad for the organizational clean slate. Treliving and Sutter had the organization close in 2022 but lost their 2 key franchise players. Brad reacted as best he could but the moves made to try and mitigate the loss of Gaudreau and Tkachuk cost them dearly. A 1st round pick to sign Kadri to a monster deal, 8 year commitments to Huberdeau and Weegar. Those moves failed because Sutter failed with this roster.

The biggest issue I have was his inability to play the kids. I am excited for a younger team next year.

[taxbuster]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

RIP Gordon Lightfoot.

OT, but so what.

Tears. One of the very best ever. Saw him many times from youth to old age.

[Singularity]

Why did we lock up Sutter so early, what was the rush, where else was he going to go? Was Murray just looking to blow 8M?

[taxbuster]

Originally Posted by topfiverecords

So Paulie has surely had his best day ever, now that he's gotten his way and Sutter is riding off into the distance. But will he be able to find something new to harp on all summer in his quest for the all time post leader?

Given the incredible volume of twaddle that he spews on almost every subject....yes.

Verbal diarrhea at its worst.

[BoLevi]

Did Sutter even want to come back and coach the team? He's probably happy he gets his 8 million and gets to hang out on the ranch

[topfiverecords]

Sutter doesn’t care about money.

[Shazam]

Originally Posted by Singularity

Why did we lock up Sutter so early, what was the rush, where else was he going to go? Was Murray just looking to blow 8M?

This team is very reactive.